Production Update Questions

[Marmaduke Grigsby]

Hi CD,

Do you have any updates yet on when the 1st title in the "2018 Forthcoming Grab Bag" may be announced? Been a few months since I lasted checked. Any information is appreciated.

Is that the same thing as this?: "New Cemetery Dance Review Copy Grab Bag For 2018!" If so, I've been wondering about it too. I placed my order back in January of 2018.

[sholloman81]

Hi CD,

Do you have any updates yet on when the 1st title in the "2018 Forthcoming Grab Bag" may be announced? Been a few months since I lasted checked. Any information is appreciated.

[slayn666]

Which publisher was this? ~Cap

DarkFuse

[RonClinton]

When has your patience expired in regards to getting a book you ordered? ~Cap

Not sure; haven’t got there quite yet. I will say that at now the two-year mark I am admittedly getting a little itchy, so I suspect three years will be my threshold. I’ll also say that this experience has affirmed my previous reluctance to pre-order and that moratorium is firmly back in place.

[c marvel]

Camelot is my solution as well. I held fast on a no pre-order policy for a long time and went only through Camelot, but weakened on three CD titles a couple years ago (about 18 to 24 months, all told) — two that were supposed to come out shortly thereafter, and unfortunately I continue to wait on all three. It’s frustrating, but I’m confident that CD is doing about all they can to remedy the situation (though I do wish getting the King material out quickly was less a priority as it seems to sideline other projects, but I get it from a business perspective) and I know a refund is available if my patience expires. But I’m okay waiting while they sort out this printer issues...stuff happens.

When has your patience expired in regards to getting a book you ordered? ~Cap

[c marvel]

I got burned pretty badly by another publisher that has since gone under, so I feel you here. I find a I preorder a lot more from Camelot nowadays because they don't expect payment until the book is in their hands and ready to ship.

Which publisher was this? ~Cap

[Sock Monkey]

Well, you wouldn't be here if you didn't care. And getting emotional is part of caring. Which is why it's better to be a psychopath and care about nothing and no one. Psychopaths have an evolutionary advantage.

Has someone been reading The Straw Men series?

[jeffingoff]

Sorry for the rant y'all. I get so emotional sometimes.

Well, you wouldn't be here if you didn't care. And getting emotional is part of caring. Which is why it's better to be a psychopath and care about nothing and no one. Psychopaths have an evolutionary advantage.

[One eyed cat]

Sorry for the rant y'all. I get so emotional sometimes.

[RonClinton]

Camelot is my solution as well. I held fast on a no pre-order policy for a long time and went only through Camelot, but weakened on three CD titles a couple years ago (about 18 to 24 months, all told) — two that were supposed to come out shortly thereafter, and unfortunately I continue to wait on all three. It’s frustrating, but I’m confident that CD is doing about all they can to remedy the situation (though I do wish getting the King material out quickly was less a priority as it seems to sideline other projects, but I get it from a business perspective) and I know a refund is available if my patience expires. But I’m okay waiting while they sort out this printer issues...stuff happens.

[mhatchett]

I got burned pretty badly by another publisher that has since gone under, so I feel you here. I find a I preorder a lot more from Camelot nowadays because they don't expect payment until the book is in their hands and ready to ship.

I had a similar situation and Camelot was my solution as well. Sometimes I miss out on a very select title, but usually, I'm able to get what I want.

[slayn666]

Personally, I've become much more selective as to which books I pre-order (from all publishers). I used to be OK with having funds tied up in books that I had no idea when I would receive. Now, not so much.

I got burned pretty badly by another publisher that has since gone under, so I feel you here. I find a I preorder a lot more from Camelot nowadays because they don't expect payment until the book is in their hands and ready to ship.

[Dan Hocker]

On the whole (other than a few problem books). We have brought wait times down a lot (at least in the time that I've been working at CD). It's just that the ones that do take too long always over shadow all the books that come out quickly. People tend to only see the problems. We're never happy that a book takes so long to come out, but we're doing to best we can, and that's just not good enough for some people.

[Ranger]

This is definitely not directed at you Ranger but I've been buying books from CD directly for nearly 13 years now and have not once heard of them refusing a refund on a preorder for any reason at all and have more often than not seen them offer refunds in the announcements of delays to scheduled release dates. I understand that waiting for something you really want can be frustrating but knowing that you can change your mind for any reason at any time and get a full refund needs to count for something too.

I've probably been ordering from CD for a similar period of time. I'm aware that the option of a refund is always there. I actually recently received a refund on my order of Damnation Game lettered edition as I wasn't prepared to wait any longer on an order I placed almost 6 years ago. As I said in my original post my priorities have changed somewhat since I first started collecting. I used to be fairly relaxed about delays. Now I prefer to prioritise my book purchases towards books that I know (or hope) will arrive sooner rather than later. As a collector of various small press publishers I do think that CD's delays do surpass similar publishers like Sub Press or PS Publishing.
Mind you I do have a couple of orders placed in 2014 with King's Way Press so I probably shouldn't complain too much!

[One eyed cat]

I've been reading the darktower.org thread regarding the publication schedule of CD. I think on the whole most people are quite sympathetic towards the problems that CD have faced regarding their printers.
There are some who raise some pertinent issues regarding the long pre-order periods on a number of books even before the recent printer problems. Ordering from CD can be a bit of a crapshoot. A book might arrive within 6 months, maybe a year or quite often longer. Some people seem quite comfortable with these delays whilst its drives others nuts.

Personally, I've become much more selective as to which books I pre-order (from all publishers). I used to be OK with having funds tied up in books that I had no idea when I would receive. Now, not so much.

This is definitely not directed at you Ranger but I've been buying books from CD directly for nearly 13 years now and have not once heard of them refusing a refund on a preorder for any reason at all and have more often than not seen them offer refunds in the announcements of delays to scheduled release dates. I understand that waiting for something you really want can be frustrating but knowing that you can change your mind for any reason at any time and get a full refund needs to count for something too.