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- May 2011
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Originally posted by Martin View PostI am someone who purchased Misery and am not purchasing this book. It makes no sense to me to spend $350 on a book that I do not value in order to keep my 'place in line'. It is just not how my mind works.
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Nothing to see here!Ok, I really can't come up with anymore of these stupid things...
- May 2011
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Originally posted by jeffingoff View PostMy mind would torture me over possibly being pushed out of future books I'll really want. Though if I had Misery, I'd be able to relax knowing the future King editions were secure. My reasoning would work this way: if there was a book that I didn't really want but only purchased to hold onto my number, then I'd feel safe recouping some (if not all) of that cost on the secondary market since the print run is so low. It would be a safe investment and I'd keep my number.Last edited by Martin; 05-09-2018, 01:51 AM.
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Originally posted by Martin View PostI can honestly saw I have never bought a book with "selling on the secondary" on my mind. Truth is once I have the book in hand it would be very hard for me to part with it. I have bought grab bas assuming I would take some to Powell's for trade, but buying a book to sell it will not happen for me.
The interesting thing is that I want all the Graveyard Editions except the ones from Bentley Little. So that's a situation where I will skip and lose my number and be ok with it. I bought Orphans of Wonderland and it is a really beautiful production. I'd love to have a set. But I don't want to buy Little.
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Originally posted by jeffingoff View PostTo be clear: buying an undesired book with the intention of selling it on the secondary market in order to preserve my number would be my reasoning. My actions would be another thing altogether. I would probably keep the book.
The interesting thing is that I want all the Graveyard Editions except the ones from Bentley Little. So that's a situation where I will skip and lose my number and be ok with it. I bought Orphans of Wonderland and it is a really beautiful production. I'd love to have a set. But I don't want to buy Little.
As far as Centipede and Suntup; easy pass. No interest whatsoever.
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For what it's worth. 90% of collectors do not care about matching numbers in the least. Also the secondary market only cares about those matching numbers if they happen to be in a multi book set (series is generally irrelevant). So for example a IT matching a Doctor Sleep is irrelevant, but say if there where limited of The Bill Hodges trilogy and those where matching that'd be relevant.
So if we look at a normal release of ours, let's say Headhunter. Headhunter maybe had 1% requested numbers. That number goes up with a series like Graveyard Editions, Novella Series, and Signature Series, but generally still not that high maybe 20% at most. It gets a bit higher with the King Stuff maybe 30 - 40% depending on the title. Carrie was maybe 20% at most while Shining was closer to 40%. Then where it really ramps up are books that are part of a continuous story. We don't actually have very many of these under the CD line. The Twelve being the most recent "book 2" that probably had a 50 - 60% number request.
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Originally posted by Sock Monkey View PostWell, if we were all hoping for a cheaper alternative of the The Haunting of Hill House from Centipede, we were wrong:
http://centipedepress.com/horror/hau...hillhouse.html
It will have a price around $450-495. Even with my subscriber discount this is going to be one expensive book.
I *thought* I remembered that Centipede was publishing *two* Shirley Jackson books -- THE HAUNTING OF HILL HOUSE and WE HAVE ALWAYS LIVED IN THE CASTLE -- and the set was going to retail at ~ $300, or $150 each. Clearly my memory was wrong with at least half of that belief.
A real shame. I get that publishers can charge whatever they want and consumers can then make budgetary decisions, but still... Perhaps the high-dollar price reflects a guaranteed royalty return to her estate for giving its permission, I don't know. Either way, I'm out...I'm sure both the Suntup and Centipede editions will be beautiful, but I'll just grab this 2013 hardcover for $10 and call it a day...and will have fun spending the $450+ I saved:
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Originally posted by RonClinton View PostJesus. Well, I guess a deluxe edition of THE HAUNTING OF HILL HOUSE just isn't in my future. If I wasn't going to pay $350, I'm certainly not going to pay even more.
I *thought* I remembered that Centipede was publishing *two* Shirley Jackson books -- THE HAUNTING OF HILL HOUSE and WE HAVE ALWAYS LIVED IN THE CASTLE -- and the set was going to retail at ~ $300, or $150 each. Clearly my memory was wrong with at least half of that belief.
A real shame. I get that publishers can charge whatever they want and consumers can then make budgetary decisions, but still... Perhaps the high-dollar price reflects a guaranteed royalty return to her estate for giving its permission, I don't know. Either way, I'm out...I'm sure both the Suntup and Centipede editions will be beautiful, but I'll just grab this 2013 hardcover for $10 and call it a day...and will have fun spending the $450+ I saved:
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Originally posted by Dan Hocker View PostI can't say for sure, but knowing Centipede and what Suntup is doing. It's the low print runs. You can't produce books to the standard that they try to with such low runs without pricing them high. That'd be my guess. Generally speaking though the lower the print run the more it costs to print.Twitter: https://twitter.com/ron_clinton
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Originally posted by Dan Hocker View PostI can't say for sure, but knowing Centipede and what Suntup is doing. It's the low print runs. You can't produce books to the standard that they try to with such low runs without pricing them high. That'd be my guess. Generally speaking though the lower the print run the more it costs to print.Originally posted by RonClinton View PostExcept that Centipede has published many other volumes at a similar small limitation (200'ish) for far, far less -- many for less than a third of what this Jackson volume will be. That makes me suspect the estate is probably demanding a higher return than Centipede typically contracts for...but that's just a guess, of course.
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Now that Centipede has released the information for their edition of Hill House, I find myself in a little more of a predicament. I'd love a nice high-end version of Hill House and was planning on not going for Suntup's due to the price, hoping that Centipede would be a little more on the reasonably-priced side. Now that ANY limited edition I buy will be that pricey, I'm contemplating Suntup's edition because (a) it is cheaper and (b) from what I see from both editions, I'm leaning towards liking Suntup's edition a little more. On the flip side, Centipede books have a track record of holding/increasing value which Suntup has yet to establish (though they could; this is nothing against the press) and, while I'm not completely bowled over by what Centipede has shown of their edition (the cover looks cool!), I tend to feel that way about Centipede's stuff until I see it in person and wind up loving it.
This could be taken out of my hands as there might be no copies of Suntup's left upon opening it up to the public tomorrow. I don't know...on the third hand (?) both are a LOT of money. Decisions, decisions...
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Nothing to see here!Ok, I really can't come up with anymore of these stupid things...
- May 2011
- 8806
Originally posted by jeffingoff View PostTo be clear: buying an undesired book with the intention of selling it on the secondary market in order to preserve my number would be my reasoning. My actions would be another thing altogether. I would probably keep the book.
The interesting thing is that I want all the Graveyard Editions except the ones from Bentley Little. So that's a situation where I will skip and lose my number and be ok with it. I bought Orphans of Wonderland and it is a really beautiful production. I'd love to have a set. But I don't want to buy Little.
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Originally posted by Sock Monkey View PostWell, if we were all hoping for a cheaper alternative of the The Haunting of Hill House from Centipede, we were wrong:
http://centipedepress.com/horror/hau...hillhouse.html
It will have a price around $450-495. Even with my subscriber discount this is going to be one expensive book.
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