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  • Sock Monkey
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    Originally posted by slayn666 View Post
    I thought about it some more, and it's possible the seller in question is a subscriber, which will likely cause a headache for Jerad.
    I'm not 100% sure how Jerad handles the various rights issues across the board, but I can say that I'm a subscriber and when I decided to sell off the first three books of the Elric series (beautiful books, but I just couldn't afford the expense at the time), the rights went with the books. This was also true for when series that started before I was subscriber, like the Lafferty series. I was not able to get my subscriber number for the series because someone held the rights due to buying the previous books (which is the right way to handle it as a new subscriber shouldn't "outrank" the original buyer). I'm sure there are circumstances involving books that aren't necessarily a series that things could be different, say someone wanting to match their number of Blackwater to The Elementals, that might create some more headaches, but I still think that the number should go to the owner of the first title if they want a matching number. I'm fine with giving up my number in those instances.

    I'm sure that tracking numbers for all these series must by a huge pain in the neck, though. Especially considering that Centipede seems to have a decent amount of people who buy books to flip (not judging, just an observation). I'm sure that it's expected with big titles like Dune.

    The seller has reduced their prices to $3,500. I'm surprised that there's only two others on eBay, both of which are unsigned and going for $700 (auction) and $825 (Buy It Now). Maybe a lot haven't gone out into the wild or the direct buyers of Messiah are collecting the whole set?

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  • slayn666
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    I thought about it some more, and it's possible the seller in question is a subscriber, which will likely cause a headache for Jerad.

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  • Scoogs
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    Originally posted by slayn666 View Post
    Jokes on the seller, Jerad has rights follow the books. He was very clear about that in the runup to the release of Dune.
    I wondered about that, but could not remember how these were setup.

    Got my shipping notice today!

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  • slayn666
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    Jokes on the seller, Jerad has rights follow the books.  He was very clear about that in the runup to the release of Dune.

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  • Scoogs
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    Originally posted by Sock Monkey View Post
    Well, a signed copy of DUNE MESSIAH has popped up on eBay…for $4500.  I’m hard pressed to think it’ll sell at that price, but let’s see…
    And the listing says that rights are NOT included. lol, good luck with that.
    The last two sales I can find for signed copies of Dune were in January for about $2400.
    $4500 for DM with no rights would be kind of stupid on the buyers part.

    In the long run, the first three will hold the most value. 4-6 are less loved, though God Emperor does have a solid fan base.
    Personally, I like how 4-6 shift the story to the Bene Gesserit, but it took me until my second time through the series to appreciate them.

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  • Sock Monkey
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    Originally posted by Dave1442397 View Post

    Yeah, that's really high. It's not worth that unless you have the matching number of Dune, and that's unlikely.
    I agree that without the first book it'll be hard to command such a high price. Honestly, that's about double the going rate for the signed edition of the first book in the series I think as a general "rule of thumb," the highest priced book in the series is the first. Taking that into consideration along with the fact that there are a lot of Dune fans who believe that the series starts and ends with the first book, this might be a hard sell, especially since there is a lot of room for another buyer to come in with a lower price point. Heck, you can get a matching set of book one and two from Mulliens for two grand less. For the record, I do not begrudge the ebay seller anything and wish them nothing but the best. I just find it an interesting topic to think about and discuss.

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  • Dave1442397
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    Originally posted by Sock Monkey View Post
    Well, a signed copy of DUNE MESSIAH has popped up on eBay…for $4500. Â I’m hard pressed to think it’ll sell at that price, but let’s see…
    Yeah, that's really high. It's not worth that unless you have the matching number of Dune, and that's unlikely.

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  • Sock Monkey
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    Well, a signed copy of DUNE MESSIAH has popped up on eBay…for $4500.  I’m hard pressed to think it’ll sell at that price, but let’s see…

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  • mhatchett
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    That's why I didn't go for the signed Dune. I've always treated Dune as a standalone. I read the original trilogy, didn't work for me, so I've never reread books 2 & 3 or pursued the rest of the series. Said all that to say this, Dune is one of my favorite all time books.

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  • Sock Monkey
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    Originally posted by RonClinton View Post

    It really is unfortunate to see eBay flooded with copies of a book clearly purchased only to flip. I suppose given that it's King, it was to be expected to some degree.

    I might be one of those DUNE two-books-and-rights sellers...now two books in, I just don't know if I have the interest in the series to stay on the Numbered train always through the five volumes. Unlike the King, my intention was never to flip, but now two books in I do think I kind of jumped in without due consideration of the commitment in a series that never really flipped my switch to begin with.

    I was surprised to see that Cisco move so quickly, too, but I'm sure it'll please his fans. I skipped it...that kind of horror-adjacent, Weird fiction just really doesn't do it for me anymore these days.
    Ron, to be honest, I've been thinking the same thing with the Dune books. I bought it the first one because it has always been a book I've wanted to read and with Centipede, if you don't get the book out the gate, you're gonna pay heavy on the aftermarket. Now I'm debating if I want to invest this much in the series, especially with the prices rising from all publishers (what happened to $40-$50 limited editions?). I should probably read the first book before deciding though. Maybe I'll love it and would regret selling it.

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  • Sock Monkey
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    Originally posted by swintek View Post
    Re: THE LONG WALK: Lord, have I been pining for this book ever since it was revealed. I just reread it last year- after probably 20 or more years since the last reading- and was nervous about it holding up to the very high standards I've always had it at in my mind. It did not disappoint. It's easily the best Bachman Book, and among King's best stories full stop (still amazes me that he wrote this in college). I always dig the Keegan's work, but was/am not entirely convinced they were nailing the general vibe I've had in my head for so long. At least from the few images on the product page. I'm still waiting on mine, but curious to what ya'll think of the illos?
    This is good to hear. I've never read it. In fact, I'm not a Stephen King fan in general. But this one always interested me and I never got around to reading it. I actually picked up a softcover collection of the four Bachman books a couple years back, but still didn't read it. I guess now that I spent all this money on the signed edition, I should get around to it, huh?

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  • mhatchett
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    Originally posted by RonClinton View Post

    It really is unfortunate to see eBay flooded with copies of a book clearly purchased only to flip. I suppose given that it's King, it was to be expected to some degree.

    I might be one of those DUNE two-books-and-rights sellers...now two books in, I just don't know if I have the interest in the series to stay on the Numbered train always through the five volumes. Unlike the King, my intention was never to flip, but now two books in I do think I kind of jumped in without due consideration of the commitment in a series that never really flipped my switch to begin with.

    I was surprised to see that Cisco move so quickly, too, but I'm sure it'll please his fans. I skipped it...that kind of horror-adjacent, Weird fiction just really doesn't do it for me anymore these days.
    I have read the first 3 books of the Dune series. Since then, I have always treated Dune as a standalone.

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  • Dave1442397
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    I got my shipping notice for Dune Messiah today. I remember back when Jerad was gauging interest for the five-book series I told him I would only be interested in the first book, but once I read it, I decided I want the set.

    I've definitely been holding back on other books that pique my interest but I have no great attachment to, such as the Cisco book, and today's Poe release from Suntup. The Poe book looks like great value for the price, but I doubt I would ever get through it.

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  • RonClinton
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    Originally posted by Sock Monkey View Post
    Yeah, the Camelot consignment prices are pretty steep. Some of the more recent sales of the unsigned edition put it at around $200, while the signed edition seems to be going anywhere between $500-$700, so the $630 price puts it at higher end. With just how many are for sale on the market right now, I anticipate the price starting to fall. But I could be wrong. Right now, I'm just glad I got my copy straight from Centipede and I can call it a day.

    The second DUNE book is coming out soon so I'm sure we'll see another surge in prices for the first book or the first two books with matching numbers and rights.

    I was also really surprised at how fast the newest Cisco collection sold out. I know that the print run was only 300 and the price was relatively attractive at $75, but that really flew!
    It really is unfortunate to see eBay flooded with copies of a book clearly purchased only to flip. I suppose given that it's King, it was to be expected to some degree.

    I might be one of those DUNE two-books-and-rights sellers...now two books in, I just don't know if I have the interest in the series to stay on the Numbered train always through the five volumes. Unlike the King, my intention was never to flip, but now two books in I do think I kind of jumped in without due consideration of the commitment in a series that never really flipped my switch to begin with.

    I was surprised to see that Cisco move so quickly, too, but I'm sure it'll please his fans. I skipped it...that kind of horror-adjacent, Weird fiction just really doesn't do it for me anymore these days.

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  • sholloman81
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    Originally posted by Sock Monkey View Post
    Yeah, the Camelot consignment prices are pretty steep. Some of the more recent sales of the unsigned edition put it at around $200, while the signed edition seems to be going anywhere between $500-$700, so the $630 price puts it at higher end. With just how many are for sale on the market right now, I anticipate the price starting to fall. But I could be wrong. Right now, I'm just glad I got my copy straight from Centipede and I can call it a day.

    The second DUNE book is coming out soon so I'm sure we'll see another surge in prices for the first book or the first two books with matching numbers and rights.

    I was also really surprised at how fast the newest Cisco collection sold out. I know that the print run was only 300 and the price was relatively attractive at $75, but that really flew!
    Yeah, I was very intrigued by the Cisco book as well. Almost pulled the trigger but had never read or heard anything about/by this author before and couldn't really find anything online to give me more background. Because of that, I figured I would think on it for a few days and potentially pick-up a copy then if I still wanted it. Boy was I wrong!

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