Random thoughts...

[RonClinton]

I'm get it. CD was my entry into the small press collectible world, as well. I feel conflicted as I understand everyone's frustrations, but I also hate to post a lot of negativity. I'm with you in that I hope that CD does come out the other end as well.

Dark Harvest was my entry point, but CD was the almost-immediate followup, so I have a LOT of warm feelings and goodwill built up around their legacy. Perhaps that’s what makes some of the recent issues so frustrating, the negative impact it’s understandably been having in the eyes of some on that legacy. But of course I get it. For me, though, I just hope for the best for the company and that they continue to work on turning things around. But even if things ultimately don’t turn out that way, they have a (thus far) 35-year history that deserves a heckuva lot of respect…not too many small presses out there that can lay claim to that kind of enduring industry impact.

[Sock Monkey]

It's just really frustrating. I know the "cool" thing to do (especially on TDT) is to talk so much crap about CD constantly, but they were the publisher that got me into this collectible world, and I just hope it all comes out at the end.

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I'm get it. CD was my entry into the small press collectible world, as well. I feel conflicted as I understand everyone's frustrations, but I also hate to post a lot of negativity. I'm with you in that I hope that CD does come out the other end as well.

[Sock Monkey]

I don't post from my phone, only my PC, and I'm still getting, as RonClinton so eloquently described, As with little hats on them.Â

Well, that blows that theory then. Maybe the forum's haunted...

[TacomaDiver]

Not just you…I keep seeing capital A letters with a mark above it like a hat. No idea why.

And, yes, 19 preorders is a lot, comparatively or not. Ever consider trimming that down w/ CD by canceling and requesting refunds? Or are you determined to stay in for the long haul?

I think it was shortly after I moved to Colorado (four years ago) that I canceled a bunch of titles with CD.

I do keep going back and forth on canceling what I have left - there are a lot, but I think (for the most part) they are books I want. 

It's just really frustrating.  I know the "cool" thing to do (especially on TDT) is to talk so much crap about CD constantly, but they were the publisher that got me into this collectible world, and I just hope it all comes out at the end.

Looking at my order history, I ordered an inexpensive paperback in March and that was my first order from them in 14 months which is very surprising to me.

[TacomaDiver]

I'm not sure what causes it, but it only happens to me when I'm posting from my iPhone. When I post via my PC, like now, I don't have that issue.

I don't post from my phone, only my PC, and I'm still getting, as RonClinton  so eloquently described, As with little hats on them. 

[mhatchett]

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[Sock Monkey]

For preorders, I'm down to:

1 for CD (The Stand)
4 for Thunderstorm for $600
1 for Subterranean for $40
1 from SST for The Hunger (I don't remember the price)

That's it. I get the rest of my SST books through Camelot so I don't pay until they have the books in hand, ready to ship; Centipede subscription is pay upon shipment as well. Frankly, I'm in the mindset of your last statement. I used to be okay with preorders and waiting the sometimes VERY long wait times until arrival, but as time has progressed, i just don't feel the need to do that anymore. I'm sure there will be exceptions, but with so many different options out there for my book money, I don't feel compelled to lock it up anymore.

Ok, I lied. I forgot about the lettered editions of Usher's Passing and The Southern Reach Trilogy. That puts 3 for CD, but Usher is on its way and I'm hoping that Southern Reach is not too far behind.

[Sock Monkey]

Once the S/L of HAIL MARY from Sub Press arrives in a few days (according to tracking), I will be down to three, count 'em three, total pre-orders -- and one of those was placed a week or so ago for a book that's supposed to be released in just a few weeks (WOLF HUNT 3 from Weird House), which will then bring down my pre-orders down to two. Yes, CD is one of them (THE STAND). Nice to have that kind of tight rein on my money again, so that it's not out there having fun, partying, doing god knows what, for years without me...instead, it's almost all back with me again, content and at home where it belongs, just chillin'. It and I have agreed to keep it that way going forward, except for very, very rare exceptions.

For preorders, I'm down to:

1 for CD (The Stand)
4 for Thunderstorm for $600
1 for Subterranean for $40
1 from SST for The Hunger (I don't remember the price)

That's it. I get the rest of my SST books through Camelot so I don't pay until they have the books in hand, ready to ship; Centipede subscription is pay upon shipment as well. Frankly, I'm in the mindset of your last statement. I used to be okay with preorders and waiting the sometimes VERY long wait times until arrival, but as time has progressed, i just don't feel the need to do that anymore. I'm sure there will be exceptions, but with so many different options out there for my book money, I don't feel compelled to lock it up anymore.

[Sock Monkey]

Is it just me, or are you all seeing random characters in replies? I was only seeing it on mhatchett 's replies, but I just had it happen to mine above.

I'm not sure what causes it, but it only happens to me when I'm posting from my iPhone. When I post via my PC, like now, I don't have that issue.

[RonClinton]

Is it just me, or are you all seeing random characters in replies? I was only seeing it on mhatchett 's replies, but I just had it happen to mine above.

Not just you…I keep seeing capital A letters with a mark above it like a hat. No idea why.

And, yes, 19 preorders is a lot, comparatively or not. Ever consider trimming that down w/ CD by canceling and requesting refunds? Or are you determined to stay in for the long haul?

[TacomaDiver]

Is it just me, or are you all seeing random characters in replies?  I was only seeing it on mhatchett 's replies, but I just had it happen to mine above.

[TacomaDiver]

Once the S/L of HAIL MARY from Sub Press arrives in a few days (according to tracking), I will be down to three, count 'em three, total pre-orders -- and one of those was placed a week or so ago for a book that's supposed to be released in just a few weeks (WOLF HUNT 3 from Weird House), which will then bring down my pre-orders down to two. Yes, CD is one of them (THE STAND). Nice to have that kind of tight rein on my money again, so that it's not out there having fun, partying, doing god knows what, for years without me...instead, it's almost all back with me again, content and at home where it belongs, just chillin'. It and I have agreed to keep it that way going forward, except for very, very rare exceptions.

When my copy of Hail Mary arrives, I'll "only" be down to 19 pre-orders, which amount to about $1700 (damn dude!) excluding the SST pre-orders that I have where I don't know what the dollar conversion amounted to.

14 from CD for about $1350
3 from SST for ???
1 from SubPress for $195
1 from Suntup for $150

The CD ones hurt.  Oldest pre-order is "only" from 2017, which yes, I realize there are others who have it worse. 
 

[sholloman81]

Once the S/L of HAIL MARY from Sub Press arrives in a few days (according to tracking), I will be down to three, count 'em three, total pre-orders -- and one of those was placed a week or so ago for a book that's supposed to be released in just a few weeks (WOLF HUNT 3 from Weird House), which will then bring down my pre-orders down to two. Yes, CD is one of them (THE STAND). Nice to have that kind of tight rein on my money again, so that it's not out there having fun, partying, doing god knows what, for years without me...instead, it's almost all back with me again, content and at home where it belongs, just chillin'. It and I have agreed to keep it that way going forward, except for very, very rare exceptions.

Too funny! I was thinking similarly today when looking at my pre-orders list. It sure has shrunk since publishers have started catching up on all of their covid/printer-delayed books. Everything on the list should be received this year with the exception of CD's the Stand, which I personally don't expect this year (but hope that I am wrong).

[RonClinton]

Never again, it's been almost two years and way too much attitude, no real follow-up information. No more pre-orders for Haffner. And damn few to anybody else.

Once the S/L of HAIL MARY from Sub Press arrives in a few days (according to tracking), I will be down to three, count 'em three, total pre-orders -- and one of those was placed a week or so ago for a book that's supposed to be released in just a few weeks (WOLF HUNT 3 from Weird House), which will then bring down my pre-orders down to two. Yes, CD is one of them (THE STAND). Nice to have that kind of tight rein on my money again, so that it's not out there having fun, partying, doing god knows what, for years without me...instead, it's almost all back with me again, content and at home where it belongs, just chillin'. It and I have agreed to keep it that way going forward, except for very, very rare exceptions.

[mhatchett]

This was my first Haffner order, and for $40 I don't mind waiting for it. It does put me off ordering anything else from them unless it has already been printed and is ready to ship.Â

Never again, it's been almost two years and way too much attitude, no real follow-up information. No more pre-orders for Haffner. And damn few to anybody else.