Film noir

[Tommy]

Sorry I missed Noir Night guys. I had a bad day yesterday and went to bed early. I hope everyone had a good time!

[Theli]

Sounds like you're in the right mindset! See you there soon.

[bugen]

La Chienne sounds fantastic!

I've been reading Cornell Woolrich and Paul Cain today, and with Night and the City coming up tonight, when the movie starts my scotch will be a double and I'll be whispering to my gun like Sledge Hammer.

[Theli]

I watched an interesting film yesterday, one that could arguably be considered film noir, though I don't think it often is. Regardless it directly ties into the genre so I'll mention it here; La Chienne (1931). The story is of an unsuccessful artist in an unhappy marriage, when out with co-workers sees a young woman being abused by what appears to be her boyfriend. Needless to say he instantly falls in love. Unfortunately for him, and her, the man was not her boyfriend but was in fact her pimp, and he forces her to use this man for financial gain. She has no love for this unsuccessful artist at all and sells off his paintings to help fund her pimp, the man she actually loves, though the feelings are not reciprocated.

Does this sound familiar at all? That's because it is the original version of Scarlet Street, with some obvious changes. First being that this version as released before the Hays code was implemented, and as such the woman's boyfriend is actually her pimp in this version and wantonly uses her throughout. There is also a specific scene that probably would not have been allowed in Scarlet Street at the time, a quick shot of gore. The ending, too, is changed, though I won't elaborate how. Also it's French, so does that automatically exclude it from being film noir?

The filming is actually quite close to the US counterpart, very dark and shadowy filmed mostly in city streets, bars and claustrophobic apartments. Though perhaps slightly more brightly lit than Scarlet Street or most other film noir, it does still have many dark scenes with foreboding shadows splashed on the set. The theme of people using others is still there, as is the underlying current of desperation, deprivation and failure.

Despite my love of Fritz Lang, I may actually prefer this version to Scarlet Street. In almost every way is this film superior, the one big ace in the hole for Scarlet Street though is a generally higher level of acting. La Chienne was an early talky and kind of suffers a bit from stagey acting that was prominent at the time. It's not terrible in this way by any means, just not up to par with the later film.

[Tommy]

I think I can make it, glad you're feeling better Andrew!

[bugen]

Yep, same time would be great for me. And Night and the City is still staring me down from the shelf, so if everyone agrees that one would be perfect!

[Theli]

Excellent! Start time of 9pm still work? And do you want to tackle Night and the City, or is there another one you want to watch?

[bugen]

I am! I am! I've had a cold the last couple of days but am almost certain no one could catch it from an online chat room.

[Theli]

Good to see you back again!

Is anyone interested in a film noir night tomorrow?

[bugen]

Thanks, everyone--much appreciated.

[Theli]

Is anyone still interested in doing a bit more low key watch this Wednesday? Maybe something we've all already seen, like The Big Sleep?

[Sock Monkey]

I'm sorry to hear that as well. My condolences to you and yours.

[thelion]

Sorry for your loss Andrew

[Martin]

Sorry for your loss.

[Tommy]

^What Theli said, we will wait. I'm very sorry for your loss Andrew.