Seasons of Terror adapted by Richard Chizmar

[Brian James Freeman]

Like you said though it is what it is. I just need to shut up and deal with it or cancel. Honestly those are my 2 options. Just venting that’s all.

Feel free to vent here.

But yes, the rights were sold to S&S before our announcement, and part of the contract with S&S was the requirement that we not publish our editions before their editions. They could have asked for all rights in the agreement, not even allowing a Limited Edition, so it was nice they agreed to our request to be able to publish these editions. But then COVID-19 came along and messed with their scheduling, and unfortunately that pushes our edition back as well.

Brian

[Dan Hocker]

My apologies I thought it was announced sooner. Regardless it’s frustrating

Yep it is, but we're at the whim of S&S here. And COVID threw a wrench into everyone's schedules including theirs.

[Nemoh21]

It wasn't "many months later." It was the next month. I posted on the McCammon site about the CD release on September 5. On October 30, I learned about the Gallery trade paperback when I found it listed on their website. I have no idea exactly when the deal was put together or how. When I asked CD about the trade edition, they told me that their limited edition would be published when the trade edition is published, per the agreement with S&S. My guess is that without that agreement, S&S wouldn't have agreed to the deal.

Hunter

My apologies I thought it was announced sooner. Regardless it’s frustrating

[goathunter]

CD announced this title and then many months later sold the trade edition rights to S an S.

It wasn't "many months later." It was the next month. I posted on the McCammon site about the CD release on September 5. On October 30, I learned about the Gallery trade paperback when I found it listed on their website. I have no idea exactly when the deal was put together or how. When I asked CD about the trade edition, they told me that their limited edition would be published when the trade edition is published, per the agreement with S&S. My guess is that without that agreement, S&S wouldn't have agreed to the deal.

Hunter

[RonClinton]

Let me tell you a little story about The Butchers Tale LOL!! We all have that white whale book that we just shake our heads.

At this point, so many years beyond the announcement, I think the odds of this one ever actually seeing the light of day are slim, which is really too bad, as nothing from CD would excite me more than a new Norman Partridge novel. I do hope all is well with Norm, and whatever creative or personal issues that have plagued this release resolve for him someday. I had the pleasure of meeting him way back in 2001, at the peak of his popularity, and he seemed like a great guy...it's really too bad that whatever issues of creative blockage he's battled over the last decade (or more?) has ultimately prevented him from becoming one of the genre's Big Names. He certainly had/has the right stuff.

I have only cancelled one CD title, signature sheets lost again HAHAHA!!

Please, please tell me you're not referring to STRANGE WEATHER.

[bookworm 1]

Let me tell you a little story about The Butchers Tale LOL!! We all have that white whale book that we just shake our heads. I have only cancelled one CD title, signature sheets lost again HAHAHA!! My experiences with CD are great and I'll continue to be patient on a few outliers. They have always worked with me when I needed help.

Exactly.

[mhatchett]

Let me tell you a little story about The Butchers Tale LOL!! We all have that white whale book that we just shake our heads. I have only cancelled one CD title, signature sheets lost again HAHAHA!! My experiences with CD are great and I'll continue to be patient on a few outliers. They have always worked with me when I needed help.

[Nemoh21]

Like you said though it is what it is. I just need to shut up and deal with it or cancel. Honestly those are my 2 options. Just venting that’s all.

[Nemoh21]

I could and probably will cancel I know that. But it’s just the point of the way this was handled is what I’m saying. Also I don’t think the contracts were signed around the same time. CD announced this title and then many months later sold the trade edition rights to S an S. I guess my overall point is I don’t think it’s right to take orders for something and then to just sell the rights to another publisher later on and make your customers wait on when they give the green light to publish. Like I said before CD could have this book finished by end of the year and Have to sit on it for another 12 months because S and S says so. That’s crazy to me and not fair to the ppl who placed orders for this.

again if I’m wrong about the terms of the agreement I fully apologize. I’m basing this off of what I’ve seen and read. CD has never really come out and said what is actually going on.

[bookworm 1]

I apologize for the ignorance ahead of time, I’m not fully aware of how the publishing game works. Is it common for a publisher to announce a title and take orders for that title, tell the customers of a release date for that title then to sell the rights to another publisher and have The new publisher determine the release date for it? As a customer I kind of feel like I’m being jerked around here. I know CD is still doing the AE and limited but if I were to have known that the rights were being sold and the publication date was going to be delayed for over 2 years I would have never bought this book. I mean let’s assume you guys are close to having this book finished, I don’t know if you are but if you are , what happens you just have to sit on it and wait for another year before you can release it? That’s just insane to me you would agree to that. When I say you I mean whoever is making the decisions

You can always cancel your order. CD is very good about that. My guess is that both contracts were signed around the same ttime and CD is a small press and S and S are the big dogs so they run the show. Also remember 2020 hasn't been the greatest of years.Even the major publishers have had to delay books due to printers shutting down for months and paper shortages.

[Nemoh21]

I apologize for the ignorance ahead of time, I’m not fully aware of how the publishing game works. Is it common for a publisher to announce a title and take orders for that title, tell the customers of a release date for that title then to sell the rights to another publisher and have The new publisher determine the release date for it? As a customer I kind of feel like I’m being jerked around here. I know CD is still doing the AE and limited but if I were to have known that the rights were being sold and the publication date was going to be delayed for over 2 years I would have never bought this book. I mean let’s assume you guys are close to having this book finished, I don’t know if you are but if you are , what happens you just have to sit on it and wait for another year before you can release it? That’s just insane to me you would agree to that. When I say you I mean whoever is making the decisions

[goathunter]

I was told a year ago that they would be released together, so yes, the CD editions will be delayed as well.

Gallery (Simon & Schuster) is calling the shots regarding the release schedule.

[Dan Hocker]

It looks like the Gallery Books edition has been delayed again, this time to November 1, 2021. (Over a year from now.)

https://www.robertmccammon.com/2020/...vember-1-2021/

I'm assuming the limited and artist editions from CD will be delayed until then as well.

That would be my guess, but I really don't know for sure.

[Marmaduke Grigsby]

It looks like the Gallery Books edition has been delayed again, this time to November 1, 2021. (Over a year from now.)

https://www.robertmccammon.com/2020/...vember-1-2021/

I'm assuming the limited and artist editions from CD will be delayed until then as well.

[Dan Hocker]

Thanks for this, Hunter.

I assume this paperback edition will be coming out after the limited edition from CD? Hopefully we will still be seeing a 2020 publication date for the limited and the artist edition.

I'm not sure. I know the original plan was to publish them around the same time. It's all going to depend on the contract with Gallery I think. I don't know those details though.