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Originally posted by bsaenz24 View Post
I have to disagree. If it could have been signed by all four, I personally, would much prefer to wait rather than have it "incomplete". Let's be honest, this is not likely the copy most customers will read. Likely, most have a trade copy that they have already ready or you can grab a cheap ebook copy. Obviously, everybody would prefer to have every book they order "now", but when it depends on people to sign things, it seems there can easily be time added to the wait. I would still rather wait if there is a chance of getting the signature.
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Originally posted by jeffingoff View Post
In this case, more people are pissed about the wait.
I think customers will be happier to have three signed volumes (containing four signatures! Including Hill's) and one unsigned volume if it means the wait is over and this one artist is no longer holding ~1000 customers hostage. I think we're all aware of the story and who's to blame and if customers cancel their orders over one missing signature from a stubborn artist, then I'm sure CD will have no problem selling those copies to other Hill fans. I seriously doubt this artist is more important than Joe Hill and he's found the time to sign. Really, at this point, that artist's signature is an insult. I don't even want it. Unless the signature sheet comes with an apology from the artist. I'd rather have a blank line.
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Originally posted by Dan Hocker View PostYou know I've written a response to you about 4 times now and just can't word it in a way that I like. Ultimately I'll just say that from experience I think you're wrong about what more people would want. Brian and I know our customer base pretty well and the message boards tend to represent a vocal minority.
As for the blame it's definitely not all on this artist either. For example back in May I was still waiting on 2 sig sheets and May isn't all that long ago. So the problem has been sig sheets across the board.
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I wasn’t around here when this edition came out for sale. I would definitely be interested in picking up a copy of the signed edition if any extra copies happen to be available at the time of shipment. As far as waiting for the finished product, I agree that as long as everyone intends to do what was promised, I don’t mind waiting even if there are delays. Trust me, I know things can happen in life that can throw things in complete disarray for months (and years). And my experience is that CD has been very forthcoming and honest about delays and that makes me feel more comfortable when situations like this happen. So I’d be willing to wait and again hopefully will get that chance to get a copy.
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Originally posted by Dan Hocker View PostTo add to this, Brian actually just told me the artist finished signing the sheets today and will be sending them back as soon as they can. It's still a long road to publication from there, especially given the extraordinarily long turnaround times on slipcases right now but things are moving forward again.
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Originally posted by Dan Hocker View PostYou know I've written a response to you about 4 times now and just can't word it in a way that I like. Ultimately I'll just say that from experience I think you're wrong about what more people would want. Brian and I know our customer base pretty well and the message boards tend to represent a vocal minority.
As for the blame it's definitely not all on this artist either. For example back in May I was still waiting on 2 sig sheets and May isn't all that long ago. So the problem has been sig sheets across the board.
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To add to this, Brian actually just told me the artist finished signing the sheets today and will be sending them back as soon as they can. It's still a long road to publication from there, especially given the extraordinarily long turnaround times on slipcases right now but things are moving forward again.
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Originally posted by Dan Hocker View PostYou know I've written a response to you about 4 times now and just can't word it in a way that I like. Ultimately I'll just say that from experience I think you're wrong about what more people would want. Brian and I know our customer base pretty well and the message boards tend to represent a vocal minority.
As for the blame it's definitely not all on this artist either. For example back in May I was still waiting on 2 sig sheets and May isn't all that long ago. So the problem has been sig sheets across the board.
I'm a inpatient person but I agree with Dan. As long as there is a chance that all four volumes can be signed I will wait. Not happy with the artist but CD can't be blamed.
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You know I've written a response to you about 4 times now and just can't word it in a way that I like. Ultimately I'll just say that from experience I think you're wrong about what more people would want. Brian and I know our customer base pretty well and the message boards tend to represent a vocal minority.
As for the blame it's definitely not all on this artist either. For example back in May I was still waiting on 2 sig sheets and May isn't all that long ago. So the problem has been sig sheets across the board.
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Originally posted by jeffingoff View Post
In this case, more people are pissed about the wait.
I think customers will be happier to have three signed volumes (containing four signatures! Including Hill's) and one unsigned volume if it means the wait is over and this one artist is no longer holding ~1000 customers hostage. I think we're all aware of the story and who's to blame and if customers cancel their orders over one missing signature from a stubborn artist, then I'm sure CD will have no problem selling those copies to other Hill fans. I seriously doubt this artist is more important than Joe Hill and he's found the time to sign. Really, at this point, that artist's signature is an insult. I don't even want it. Unless the signature sheet comes with an apology from the artist. I'd rather have a blank line.
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Originally posted by Dan Hocker View Post
It's largely a catch 22. If you wait people are mad, if you release it without the promised signature people are mad. Ultimately we would prefer to provide the product as it was originally promised, and with the way this set is laid out with 4 different books, it really wouldn't make much sense to have one of the books not have a signature sheet in them.
I think customers will be happier to have three signed volumes (containing four signatures! Including Hill's) and one unsigned volume if it means the wait is over and this one artist is no longer holding ~1000 customers hostage. I think we're all aware of the story and who's to blame and if customers cancel their orders over one missing signature from a stubborn artist, then I'm sure CD will have no problem selling those copies to other Hill fans. I seriously doubt this artist is more important than Joe Hill and he's found the time to sign. Really, at this point, that artist's signature is an insult. I don't even want it. Unless the signature sheet comes with an apology from the artist. I'd rather have a blank line.
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Originally posted by RonClinton View Post
If I haven't done something in 14 months (or longer, if my memory serves correctly) that needs doing, I think it's pretty clear I have absolutely no intention of doing it, for whatever reason. I would suggest again that CD move on with what they have -- and with what it sure seems to me they're going to get -- and release the book without that artist's signature. But I suggested this before in this (?) thread and most disagreed that that was the correct route, so looks like we'll continue to wait, moving into a fourth year in September of this year (pre-ordered 9/25/2017). It's really unfortunate when things like that happen, whether they're in CD's control or not, because -- at least for me -- the anticipation for a release turns progressively into annoyance as time wears on and on, and rather than excitement upon delivery the prevailing emotion is simply relief.
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Originally posted by Burnt Puke View PostThis one is still being held up by one of the artists who hasn't signed the signature sheets yet. According to Brian, he's had them for 14 months and still nothing.
Pretty ridiculous and very unprofessional.
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Originally posted by Dan Hocker View PostTo be fair the single artist wasn't the only hold up, just the most recent one. Sig sheets were also held up in Chille for 6 months due to national unrest, and were also held up waiting for an opening in Joe's schedule for awhile too. This is just the current delay.
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