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    Dan, would it be possible for you to post a picture of a typical CD blueline? Just curious.

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    Sure thing John, just went up front and took some shots with my phone. All the pages are individual, printed front and back.2011-10-11 13.21.29.jpg2011-10-11 13.21.46.jpg2011-10-11 13.21.11.jpg2011-10-11 13.20.50.jpg
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    Interesting! Thanks a lot!

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    Cool, had one of these and didn't even know it

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    Nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhanic View Post
    Nice!

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    Thanks John, it came with a bunch of other stuff from CD as part of a "special" they ran earler this year - didn't give it much (any) thought until Mr Elk started this thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant Wootton View Post
    Thanks John, it came with a bunch of other stuff from CD as part of a "special" they ran earler this year - didn't give it much (any) thought until Mr Elk started this thread
    I remember that one, I think it was the "Ultimate Collectors Extravaganza"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Hocker View Post
    I remember that one, I think it was the "Ultimate Collectors Extravaganza"
    I reckon you're right on the money Mr H

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    I think I won mine in a CD 'raffle' a few years back. I'd have to dig through thousands of work emails to cofirm that though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Hocker View Post
    Hmm that's odd neither of those blue lines look quite like the blue lines I've seen. The ones that usually come through CD are all individual pages printed front and back, exactly like the book pages.
    And the young Mr. Hocker shows his age!

    Some information for the collectors:

    We still call them bluelines because the stage of publication they represent is the same, but I don't know if any printer still actually makes them like the old days. Now they're just printed digitally, but there's still usually only ONE set for each book and sometimes they're actually a little different than the final book for reasons I'll mention in a moment.

    The purpose is still the same: the printer sends them to the publisher BEFORE printing the book so the publisher can confirm the pages are set as intended. This is the very last step before the printer starts running the press.

    Every now and then, you catch a mistake at this stage and you can fix it. But that also means the text of the "bluelines" is slightly different than the final book in that case.

    By the way, once or twice I've seen something catastrophic get caught at this stage -- and the printer will run a new set of bluelines for final confirmation after resetting the pages, just so you can be sure everything has been put back together okay.

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    Different printers and publishers sometimes use different terms for the same thing, or the same terms for different things, but a comment on something else that was mentioned:

    F&Gs = Folded and Gathered.

    This is an optional step that follows the bluelines stage. The printer runs one copy of the interior of the book, "gathered" into the signatures, but not actually bound.

    This can be expensive and really is not needed if the bluelines looked good -- but sometimes, if we're really paranoid about a project, we do request them. There is one project this year where I've asked for F&Gs. You might be able to guess which one. (I hope to see them in about two weeks.)

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    I'm guessing that project would be the It anniversary edition that was recently sent to the printer

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    Brian has posted a very informative item regarding bluelines and F&Gs:

    http://brianjamesfreeman.wordpress.c...-stephen-king/

    (Sorry to steal your thunder here, Brian!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhanic View Post
    Brian has posted a very informative item regarding bluelines and F&Gs:

    http://brianjamesfreeman.wordpress.c...-stephen-king/

    (Sorry to steal your thunder here, Brian!)

    John
    Ha, I knew I had been posting about bluelines and F&Gs somewhere recently!

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    Good stuff, Brian! Thanks for sharing.

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    Just got this today:





    Lilja's Library blue lines from Cemetary Dance.


    John

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    Congrats on the blue lines, John!

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    Excellent coup (as always) John !!!!!

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    Thanks. I found out a few days ago that the signature on the cover is, indeed, Lilja's, too.

    John

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