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    I Am Legend - Suntup Press

    Thought I would give today's announcement from Suntup Press its own thread:

    Suntup Editions is delighted to announce the upcoming publication of a fine press limited edition of I Am Legend by Richard Matheson.

    Presented in three states: Lettered, Numbered and Artist Gift, the editions measure 6” x 9” and feature six black & white illustrations by award winning artist Allen Williams. All copies are signed by the artist.
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    https://suntup.press/i-am-legend#order-buttons

    Currently the Lettered edition is sold out but the Limited and Artist Gift Edition remain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c marvel View Post
    I was ready to order I Am Legend until I went through the SP checkout process. Over $5 in taxes and $12.31 for media mail shipping. I don't have a discount/coupon code to use. This means for me -- No way. There is too much extra to pay to get one book. The price listed for the Artist Gift Edition seemed okay until I saw the tax and shipping.

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    The shipping costs aren't that bad considering the book is being shipped from out of country. I like this book but I'm still on the fence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bookworm 1 View Post
    The shipping costs aren't that bad considering the book is being shipped from out of country. I like this book but I'm still on the fence.
    Are guys talking about Paul's book or another edition? The SP checkout process lost me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian861 View Post
    Are guys talking about Paul's book or another edition? The SP checkout process lost me.
    I assume 'SP' meant Suntup Press. The shipping amount quoted matched what I paid and he is in the same state as the press so he is required to pay CA sales tax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin View Post
    I assume 'SP' meant Suntup Press. The shipping amount quoted matched what I paid and he is in the same state as the press so he is required to pay CA sales tax.
    But it's not shipped out of country like bookworm stated if we're talking about Suntup. At least not to Cap it isn't.

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    That being shipped out of country comment confused me. Bookworm1-I am reconsidering. I may purchase IAL yet. ~Cap
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian861 View Post
    But it's not shipped out of country like bookworm stated if we're talking about Suntup. At least not to Cap it isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by c marvel View Post
    That being shipped out of country comment confused me. Bookworm1-I am reconsidering. I may purchase IAL yet. ~Cap
    Not sure if you've ever ordered from Paul, Cap but the books are packed extremely well. Cased in custom foam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian861 View Post
    Not sure if you've ever ordered from Paul, Cap but the books are packed extremely well. Cased in custom foam.
    Yeah, I don't like to pay large amounts for shipping, either, but at least with Suntup I can see where the money is going...oversized thick-cardboard boxes with the books carefully cased in custom foam. It's probably overkill to a degree, since several sheets of bubblewrap and a cardboard box will almost always achieve the same result, but it's a nice touch that justifies the expense and, as well, illustrates the care and use of fine materials in Suntup's productions, fine materials that even trickle down to the manner in which the books are shipped.

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    I have not ordered from Suntup Press yet. I find too many things to fuel my book addiction.... lol ~Cap
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian861 View Post
    Not sure if you've ever ordered from Paul, Cap but the books are packed extremely well. Cased in custom foam.
    Books are weapons in the war of ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonClinton View Post
    Yeah, I don't like to pay large amounts for shipping, either, but at least with Suntup I can see where the money is going...oversized thick-cardboard boxes with the books carefully cased in custom foam. It's probably overkill to a degree, since several sheets of bubblewrap and a cardboard box will almost always achieve the same result, but it's a nice touch that justifies the expense and, as well, illustrates the care and use of fine materials in Suntup's productions, fine materials that even trickle down to the manner in which the books are shipped.
    Their attention to details and the quality of their shipping is so great, I was a little bummed when my wife brought my copies of Horns back from Washington, she threw the boxes away so the books wouldn't take up so much room in her luggage. I've never felt that way about a mailing box before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian861 View Post
    But it's not shipped out of country like bookworm stated if we're talking about Suntup. At least not to Cap it isn't.
    My mistake J was thinking PS Publications. I was having a dyslexic kind of morning.

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    I’m on the fence...again. I AM LEGEND is a stone cold classic by one of my favorite authors. I’d be all over the limited—it looks beautiful—but the price point is giving me a Grand Canyon sized pause. If it was near the same price point as BROTHER I’d have pulled the trigger already. Eye-balling the AGE, but I think I’d regret not getting the limited...

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    I can't understand the prices for the limited and lettered, considering they can't be signed. I'm sure they will be beautiful books, for $3500 for a lettered not signed by the author???? Seems crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsaenz24 View Post
    I can't understand the prices for the limited and lettered, considering they can't be signed. I'm sure they will be beautiful books, for $3500 for a lettered not signed by the author???? Seems crazy.
    I'm pretty sure the price point on these is all production value really. What Paul is trying to do is have sort of a "standard" so not matter what book it is, they all have sort of the same production value put into them. This then makes it so you have to price the editions relatively similarly across the board, no matter if there's a signature or not. So where he's able to "fudge" the numbers a bit is when he doesn't do a gift edition. So for example the limited for Brother is cheaper than I Am Legend, because he's doing a gift for I Am Legend and the limitation for I Am Legend is half of the limitation for Brother.

    His lettereds are so expensive because he's going all out on them. I'm pretty sure he prints all of his lettereds via letter press (and his more expensive limiteds too) which in of itself skyrockets the printing costs. Let alone the rest of the materials he uses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsaenz24 View Post
    I can't understand the prices for the limited and lettered, considering they can't be signed. I'm sure they will be beautiful books, for $3500 for a lettered not signed by the author???? Seems crazy.
    It's the materials and the craftsmanship. Full goatskin for the lettered, hand sewn and letterpress for the lettered and numbered. That all adds up. Having the numbered editions of HORNS and HILL HOUSE, I'll say the quality is amazing. You can feel where the money goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffingoff View Post
    It's the materials and the craftsmanship. Full goatskin for the lettered, hand sewn and letterpress for the lettered and numbered. That all adds up. Having the numbered editions of HORNS and HILL HOUSE, I'll say the quality is amazing. You can feel where the money goes.
    I do see Brad's point a bit though. It seems more of a "why go to those lengths for a book that can't / won't be signed" kind of a thing. That said it's just what Paul is doing with his line of books. I hope it continues to work out for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Hocker View Post
    I do see Brad's point a bit though. It seems more of a "why go to those lengths for a book that can't / won't be signed" kind of a thing. That said it's just what Paul is doing with his line of books. I hope it continues to work out for him.
    Oh yeah I see the point too. For a lot of folks, the signature from the author "legitimizes" the book. It's a literal endorsement of the edition. With Levin, Jackson, and Matheson, signatures were impossible. With McCarthy the signature was impossible for a different reason. But I would hate to see those books get passed by because a signature couldn't be acquired. And I would hate for Paul to do anything less than his best for these masterworks. I think all paths lead to the same price point. And as we saw with Rosemary's Baby, any signature meant to stand in for the author's can become a lightning rod for cynics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffingoff View Post
    Oh yeah I see the point too. For a lot of folks, the signature from the author "legitimizes" the book. It's a literal endorsement of the edition. With Levin, Jackson, and Matheson, signatures were impossible. With McCarthy the signature was impossible for a different reason. But I would hate to see those books get passed by because a signature couldn't be acquired. And I would hate for Paul to do anything less than his best for these masterworks. I think all paths lead to the same price point. And as we saw with Rosemary's Baby, any signature meant to stand in for the author's can become a lightning rod for cynics.
    Yea I dunno, it's just kinda a weird position to be in honestly. I've always wanted to do a "CD Does the classics" line or something like that, but without signatures and 100s of other editions of them, why would someone want to buy Dracula or Frankenstein (or the myriad of other horror classics) from us. Just a thought though.
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    I've never thought these added any value to a book FWIW.

    Quote Originally Posted by jeffingoff View Post
    any signature meant to stand in for the author's can become a lightning rod for cynics.

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    Given the choice between a signed (by the author) numbered edition and an unsigned (or signed by whoever did the intro) numbered edition, I'll always opt for the numbered signed by the author for, I suppose, the reason mentioned by Jeff above...it legitimizes the edition, it shows an authorial seal of approval, a small involvement by the author that stamps it as the definitive deluxe edition. This is why I treasure my signed Easton of ROSEMARY'S BABY and my signed Gauntlet of I AM LEGEND, but had no interest in the not-signed-by-the-author Suntup editions of each novel (well, that and the high cost, especially given that I already had my editions). But since I do love LEGEND so damn much, I couldn't pass up the Gift Edition as just a second, very lovely edition to accompany my Gauntlet. I passed on ROSEMARY'S BABY altogther.

    All that to say that given the choice I'll opt for the edition signed by the author, but the lack of a signature doesn't preclude me from buying a book. For me, it's nice to have and I prefer it, but it's not essential. That said and using I AM LEGEND as an example, I don't believe I'd ever spend $700 on an unsigned numbered or $3500 on an unsigned lettered when one can snag a numbered signed by the author for (according to what I see on ABE) $400. I get that the production qualities of a Suntup far eclipse Gauntlet (those IAL is from the days when they actually did a pretty nice job), but I tend to value that authorial involvement and stamp of approval more than the origin of the paper or other subtle production elements.

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