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    Quote Originally Posted by RonClinton View Post
    I’d recommend the Wayward Pines trilogy, DARK MATTER, and RUN, and in that order.
    A friend of mine just lent me PINES to read. I'm eager to get into it. Right after CELLARS and THE CHALK MAN.

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    Hope you enjoy PINES as much as I did, Jeff, and if you do, set aside $20 or $30 for the other two tpb installments of the trilogy, 'cause you're going to need them asap.

    Let me know what you think about CHALK MAN once you have a chance to read it. I've been eyeing that Sub Press edition...I like the art and design and love coming-of-age horror/suspense tales. A few bad reviews have scared me off its trail a bit, so am holding off until I get that spark of excitement back that I had when I first heard Bill @ SubPress speak of it. A positive review from you would help ignite that spark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonClinton View Post
    Hope you enjoy PINES as much as I did, Jeff, and if you do, set aside $20 or $30 for the other two tpb installments of the trilogy, 'cause you're going to need them asap.

    Let me know what you think about CHALK MAN once you have a chance to read it. I've been eyeing that Sub Press edition...I like the art and design and love coming-of-age horror/suspense tales. A few bad reviews have scared me off its trail a bit, so am holding off until I get that spark of excitement back that I had when I first heard Bill @ SubPress speak of it. A positive review from you would help ignite that spark.
    Bills' FROTHING praise is what got me on the hook for two books from a completely unknown author. I haven't seen too much negative and what I did see amounted to "if I wanted a Stephen King book, I would read a Stephen King book!" Which isn't entirely negative.

    But aren't you a little worried about a review from me? If I love it, that should count as a negative for you.

    I'm going to read CELLARS next and find out why it sold out so quickly (much faster than the two previous Vintage Horror series installments) and then it's all CHALK MAN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffingoff View Post
    I haven't seen too much negative and what I did see amounted to "if I wanted a Stephen King book, I would read a Stephen King book!" Which isn't entirely negative.
    Okay, you asked for it...read at your excitement's peril...here are a couple ones that represent the scathing ones I've read:

    https://openlettersreview.com/open-l...n-by-c-j-tudor

    https://www.independent.ie/entertain...-36480000.html

    ...and a number of 'meh' reviews, like:

    https://crimefictionlover.com/2018/01/the-chalk-man/

    But to be fair, there are a good number of positive reviews, too, so hard to call this one. Maybe the negative reviewers are too critical? The positive reviewers too forgiving?

    But aren't you a little worried about a review from me? If I love it, that should count as a negative for you.
    True dat. It's a fine line I have to walk with you.
    Last edited by RonClinton; 04-15-2019 at 05:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonClinton View Post
    Okay, you asked for it...read at your excitement's peril...here are a couple ones that represent the scathing ones I've read:

    https://openlettersreview.com/open-l...n-by-c-j-tudor

    https://www.independent.ie/entertain...-36480000.html

    ...and a number of 'meh' reviews, like:

    https://crimefictionlover.com/2018/01/the-chalk-man/

    But to be fair, there are a good number of positive reviews, too, so hard to call this one. Maybe the negative reviewers are too critical? The positive reviewers too forgiving?



    True dat. It's a fine line I have to walk with you.
    Thanks for sharing these links! I don't know what author would please that first reviewer. Seems like Steve has high to perfectionist standards. Maybe I'll read the book and say the same thing, though. Because I get it. I felt exactly the same way about Haven by Tom Deady. I hated that book because it was so clunky and ham-fisted. ANYONE WANT TO BUY A SIGNED COPY? I'll throw in a reading copy as well!

    The second review is more damning, I think.

    But I have to wonder, WHY is everyone else so in love with the book? Seems no end to the raves and hype.

    I'll happily add my two cents to the conversation. I'll rate it on a scale from Bentley Little to Cormac McCarthy. Just so there's no confusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffingoff View Post
    But I have to wonder, WHY is everyone else so in love with the book? Seems no end to the raves and hype.
    Hype often seems to feed on prior hype, whether the initial hype was based on truth or not...everyone's looking to find the next GONE GIRL, etc., publishers and readers alike. Look at the hype surrounding WOMAN IN THE WINDOW, its flaws and plagristic tendencies (and author history) ignored in favor of the hype that smart marketing and subsequent word-of-mouth buzz generated. Until the truth* came out and folks started taking a second look at it and/or backtracking on their prior positive spin.

    * https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...-of-deceptions
    https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/2/4...yorker-profile
    https://bookstr.com/article/first-de...llory-scandal/


    I'll happily add my two cents to the conversation. I'll rate it on a scale from Bentley Little to Cormac McCarthy. Just so there's no confusion.
    But that's just the high end of the scale...? I think you meant from Josh Malerman to Cormac McCarthy...now that's a scale I can understand!

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    If you like crime fiction -- especially heist-driven crime fiction -- to my mind there's nothing better than Richard Stark's / Donald Westlake's Parker series:

    https://twitter.com/ron_clinton/stat...43669560594432

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    I think Eugene Izzi's The Take, 1987 is probably my favorite "Modern" Heist/Caper novel. Unfortunately, he's slipping into obscurity after his odd death in 1996, discovered hanging 14 stories out of an office building.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhatchett View Post
    I think Eugene Izzi's The Take, 1987 is probably my favorite "Modern" Heist/Caper novel. Unfortunately, he's slipping into obscurity after his odd death in 1996, discovered hanging 14 stories out of an office building.
    Yeah, his passing was an odd one. I’ve read (and enjoyed) THE TAKE, but I’ve read little else of his, maybe just one or two others back in the day.

    Heist crime thrillers are my favorite niche in crime fiction, followed closely by professional hitmen novels. No idea what that says about me.

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    It says you like the Butcher's Boy LOl!! I read the first three Izzi Books, The take 87, Bad Guys 88, and The Booster 89, one right after the other. He was on a run and than things slowed down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonClinton View Post
    Hype often seems to feed on prior hype, whether the initial hype was based on truth or not...everyone's looking to find the next GONE GIRL, etc., publishers and readers alike. Look at the hype surrounding WOMAN IN THE WINDOW, its flaws and plagristic tendencies (and author history) ignored in favor of the hype that smart marketing and subsequent word-of-mouth buzz generated. Until the truth* came out and folks started taking a second look at it and/or backtracking on their prior positive spin.

    * https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...-of-deceptions
    https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/2/4...yorker-profile
    https://bookstr.com/article/first-de...llory-scandal/




    But that's just the high end of the scale...? I think you meant from Josh Malerman to Cormac McCarthy...now that's a scale I can understand!
    It's far from a perfect book, but Chalk Man was an enjoyable book. Don't buy into the hype, it's not the be all and end all of crime fiction, nor is it the new It, but the comparisons are apt. Of the books I've read I think the most comparable novel would probably be Dennis Lehane's Mystic River.

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    Sounds intriguing, Theli. I’ll temper the hype, then, but keep it on my to-get list.

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    My Fine/Fine 1st ed. of Stephen King’s THE STAND in aftermarket slipcase:

    https://twitter.com/ron_clinton/stat...202718208?s=21

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonClinton View Post
    My Fine/Fine 1st ed. of Stephen King’s THE STAND in aftermarket slipcase:

    https://twitter.com/ron_clinton/stat...202718208?s=21
    ...and now the thread also has a pic of my signed/limited King's JOYLAND (also in aftermarket slipcase).

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonClinton View Post
    My Fine/Fine 1st ed. of Stephen King’s THE STAND in aftermarket slipcase:

    https://twitter.com/ron_clinton/stat...202718208?s=21
    I need that Stand!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian861 View Post
    I need that Stand!
    I passed up a whole lotta 1st ed. HCs of that book before I sprung for that Fine/Fine copy. It was so large and so cheaply produced by Doubleday that spine sag and other condition/longevity issues are commonplace on almost all 1st eds. of that massive book. Add to that the fact that most copies also have worn dustjackets since it's a (early) King book and thus extremely likely that it's been read and re-read, possibly by multiple people. So it's tough to find a 1st ed. / 1st printing copy that essentially looks like it just came off the bookstore shelves...but sometimes patience wins out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonClinton View Post
    I passed up a whole lotta 1st ed. HCs of that book before I sprung for that Fine/Fine copy. It was so large and so cheaply produced by Doubleday that spine sag and other condition/longevity issues are commonplace on almost all 1st eds. of that massive book. Add to that the fact that most copies also have worn dustjackets since it's a (early) King book and thus extremely likely that it's been read and re-read, possibly by multiple people. So it's tough to find a 1st ed. / 1st printing copy that essentially looks like it just came off the bookstore shelves...but sometimes patience wins out.
    I'll be patiently awaiting its arrival

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    Nice book. This may be the only signed limited I truly kick myself for not buying at launch. It was affordable and within my budget.

    Quote Originally Posted by RonClinton View Post
    ...and now the thread also has a pic of my signed/limited King's JOYLAND (also in aftermarket slipcase).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Staad View Post
    Nice book. This may be the only signed limited I truly kick myself for not buying at launch. It was affordable and within my budget.
    Yes, this was one of those pub. copies. I saved the invoice in the book, and it was priced at L55.99 (pounds), so that's what, around $75 for a signed/numbered Stephen King? Postage was another L22, but still...deals like that only come around once in a blue moon.

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