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    The Dark Tower Movie

    Not a lot of Talk going on around here lately and I see no Dark Tower thread. What does everyone think of how it looks for far? I think it looks amazing and am so glad to see Matthew McConaughey cast and I love Idris Elba. Some of the special effects could be better. My main concern was bringing in The Drawing with how they seem to have jumbled up books. It almost looks like Jake is not brought in properly and there's stuff from the wastelands but no Eddie and Susannah. But Nik put my completely as ease with the Reddit AMA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriw View Post
    Not a lot of Talk going on around here lately and I see no Dark Tower thread. What does everyone think of how it looks for far? I think it looks amazing and am so glad to see Matthew McConaughey cast and I love Idris Elba. Some of the special effects could be better. My main concern was bringing in The Drawing with how they seem to have jumbled up books. It almost looks like Jake is not brought in properly and there's stuff from the wastelands but no Eddie and Susannah. But Nik put my completely as ease with the Reddit AMA.
    I can't wait for IT to hit theaters in September!!

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    Was excited by the announcement, as well as the main cast. After seeing the preview I am less excited.

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    My understanding is that this is an alternate timeline. Ka is a wheel and this view does not show the same spin of the wheel as the original books. I assume that means the characters are similar but not the same. Many events happen but not necessarily in the same sequence.

    With that said I am very intrigued with this one and am looking forward to it. Dark Tower loyalist may be disappointed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin View Post
    My understanding is that this is an alternate timeline. Ka is a wheel and this view does not show the same spin of the wheel as the original books. I assume that means the characters are similar but not the same. Many events happen but not necessarily in the same sequence.

    With that said I am very intrigued with this one and am looking forward to it. Dark Tower loyalist may be disappointed.
    That's actually a good spin. I can dig.

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    I will probably go see it. Don't get to a lot of movies, but told my wife I want to see this one. I have not read any of the Dark Tower books (yet), but it looks pretty good. I got my 2 Funko Pop figures for it.

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    I'm a little disappointed that it looks like they are condensing it down to a single movie. Some of my favorite parts of the story happen with characters it looks like they are leaving out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin View Post
    My understanding is that this is an alternate timeline. Ka is a wheel and this view does not show the same spin of the wheel as the original books. I assume that means the characters are similar but not the same. Many events happen but not necessarily in the same sequence.

    With that said I am very intrigued with this one and am looking forward to it. Dark Tower loyalist may be disappointed.
    What I heard is that this is a sequel. I'm not going to spoil the books for anyone who may not have read them by explaining how it's a sequel. But based on that enormous hole of a word (sequel) people need to know that the filmmakers have been liberated from staying true to elements of the source material that they don't want to include. They essentially have the names of characters and the basic framework of the overarching plot and that's it. They're going to do whatever they want and I am not on fire to see it. I'm annoyed with the "Force" powers given to the Man in Black. And this Roland isn't as cold and emotionless as the Roland I journeyed with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffingoff View Post
    And this Roland isn't as cold and emotionless as the Roland I journeyed with.
    I don't know about that. In my opinion there hasn't been enough in the trailers to tell us that.

    I honestly don't think it even needs to be a sequel for them to do what you're talking about. They do this sort of thing all the time, to some extent. This time just feels like they are going heavy with it, because they don't want to commit to 7 movies. If I remember correctly the original plan was 2 movies with a mini-series sandwiched in between. Though I believe that has been abandoned now in favor of just one movie. But we will see. Like you though I'm not really excited about it, I'll see it, but I'm not jumping out of my chair to do so.
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    I posted this and forgot about it. It's not all condensed into one movie. The first one is merely an introduction to the characters and the world. The Series is already being written and is just waiting on a green light from the movie sales. The second movie will include a variation of the Drawing. The whole Ka-Tet will be brought in, including Oy and the Detta Roland conflicts will not be dropped just altered. I'm extremely excited. Most people who aren't don't seem to understand what it is they're doing or are just pissed about a Black Roland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriw View Post
    I posted this and forgot about it. It's not all condensed into one movie. The first one is merely an introduction to the characters and the world. The Series is already being written and is just waiting on a green light from the movie sales. The second movie will include a variation of the Drawing. The whole Ka-Tet will be brought in, including Oy and the Detta Roland conflicts will not be dropped just altered. I'm extremely excited. Most people who aren't don't seem to understand what it is they're doing or are just pissed about a Black Roland.
    I couldn't care one way or another about "Black Roland" I actually think the casting is a good choice. Mostly I would just rather a more direct adaptation, along the lines of what they're doing with IT (which looks really good, but I'll never actually see it, because I enjoy sleeping too much).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Hocker View Post
    I couldn't care one way or another about "Black Roland" I actually think the casting is a good choice. Mostly I would just rather a more direct adaptation, along the lines of what they're doing with IT (which looks really good, but I'll never actually see it, because I enjoy sleeping too much).
    I will admit that I was annoyed about the casting initially. I would have been annoyed if they cast Paul Giamatti as Roland because that wasn't how the character looked in my imagination (much the same way that Shelly Duvall was a horrible Wendy). So it's not a race issue. At all. And frankly, if King wants good lead black characters then he needs to write good lead black characters. Most of his black characters are either sidekicks or "magical" assistants. But anyway . . .

    I will say I got over the Roland casting decision pretty quickly because Idris looks like a bad ass gunslinger and I know he's a super talented actor. So I felt that he fit Roland in all the very crucial ways (ways that maybe Paul Giamatti couldn't).

    THEN I saw the trailers. And I really hated what I saw. I think Mcconaughey's Walter O'Dim is AWFUL. And in the few scenes with Roland and Jake, it looks like Roland is too soft or gentle when he's looking at Jake. I just didn't see Roland behaving that way toward Jake.

    Of course these are only snippets of the larger piece and it's one I have been waiting decades to see. So I am much harder on this ilm than I would be on any other. I love King's work and the Dark Tower books are among my very favorites. I will see this movie and I'm hoping that all the Hollywood bullshit is in the trailers because the marketers are trying to capture the widest possible audience. And I will try to have an open mind. And I hope I walk out feeling like I just spent time with my ka tet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffingoff View Post
    I will admit that I was annoyed about the casting initially. I would have been annoyed if they cast Paul Giamatti as Roland because that wasn't how the character looked in my imagination (much the same way that Shelly Duvall was a horrible Wendy). So it's not a race issue. At all. And frankly, if King wants good lead black characters then he needs to write good lead black characters. Most of his black characters are either sidekicks or "magical" assistants. But anyway . . .

    I will say I got over the Roland casting decision pretty quickly because Idris looks like a bad ass gunslinger and I know he's a super talented actor. So I felt that he fit Roland in all the very crucial ways (ways that maybe Paul Giamatti couldn't).

    THEN I saw the trailers. And I really hated what I saw. I think Mcconaughey's Walter O'Dim is AWFUL. And in the few scenes with Roland and Jake, it looks like Roland is too soft or gentle when he's looking at Jake. I just didn't see Roland behaving that way toward Jake.

    Of course these are only snippets of the larger piece and it's one I have been waiting decades to see. So I am much harder on this ilm than I would be on any other. I love King's work and the Dark Tower books are among my very favorites. I will see this movie and I'm hoping that all the Hollywood bullshit is in the trailers because the marketers are trying to capture the widest possible audience. And I will try to have an open mind. And I hope I walk out feeling like I just spent time with my ka tet.
    Yea the Dark Tower is my favorite SK work, but that's mostly because I like fantasy more than horror. I don't have as much invested in this as others do though as I read the DT series only after it was all out, and really only in the last like 6 years. So I don't have the "time waiting" a lot of fans have. I like Mcconaughey's Walter, I also don't see what you're seeing in the relationship between Roland and Jake. But I get where you're coming from since you do see that. Mostly though, it just doesn't look like what I wanted from the movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Hocker View Post
    Mostly though, it just doesn't look like what I wanted from the movie.
    I think that's the best way to phrase it. It's all so subjective. And like I said, I want to be won over by the actual film. With my expectations set so low, I might end up loving this adaptation. Because it can only be better than what I'm afraid it will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffingoff View Post
    I think that's the best way to phrase it. It's all so subjective. And like I said, I want to be won over by the actual film. With my expectations set so low, I might end up loving this adaptation. Because it can only be better than what I'm afraid it will be.
    Yep. That said I don't think it's going to be bad, I just don't think it's gonna be what I want.
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    As someone who has only read the first book in The Dark Tower series and wasn't swept away, I can say that I am actually pretty interested in seeing this movie. Idris Elba is a fantastic actor and McConaughey is fantastic when given the right role. Count me in on checking this out. Though if I had to pick only one upcoming film adaptation, the trailers for It have been looking pretty darn good...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sock Monkey View Post
    As someone who has only read the first book in The Dark Tower series and wasn't swept away, I can say that I am actually pretty interested in seeing this movie. Idris Elba is a fantastic actor and McConaughey is fantastic when given the right role. Count me in on checking this out. Though if I had to pick only one upcoming film adaptation, the trailers for It have been looking pretty darn good...
    That was kinda how I felt about The Gunslinger initially as well. It took me forever to get through it. Once I got past it though and onto the next book in the series, I burned through the rest of them super quickly. I really should re-read them it's been awhile and I've only ever read them the once. It does look great, but I'm a wimp.
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    I absolutely loved The Gunslinger, but still haven't touched the rest of the series.

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    The movie looks better then I was expecting. I haven't been to a movie in the theater in over a decade. So I won't be going to see this. That being said the new It might be the movie that brings me back to the theater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theli View Post
    I absolutely loved The Gunslinger, but still haven't touched the rest of the series.
    Paul!!! You're missing out on some of the best books king wrote.
    What are you waiting for??!!

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