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  • T-Dogz_AK47
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    Originally posted by TJCams View Post
    And I think that's the point. Arthur C Clarke has a quote somewhere about him and Kubrick wanting the audience to wonder and ask questions - make the audience think.
    Your absolutely right TJCams. The signature of Stanley Kubrick's film making was to always keep the answers out of reach, and that's precisely why his films have depth and hidden meaning - they make you think.

    His whole mantra of film making was based on a very famous quote:

    "In all things that are mysterious - never explain."
    - H.P. Lovecraft

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  • TJCams
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    Originally posted by Sock Monkey View Post
    I haven't seen 2001 either. It's been on my radar for awhile yet never seems to get to the top of the heap. I do remember trying to read the book and was like, what the heck is going on. Of course I was in the sixth grade at the time so that might have had a lot to do with it.
    And I think that's the point. Arthur C Clarke has a quote somewhere about him and Kubrick wanting the audience to wonder and ask questions - make the audience think.

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  • Teriw
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    It's boring.

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  • Sock Monkey
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    I haven't seen 2001 either. It's been on my radar for awhile yet never seems to get to the top of the heap. I do remember trying to read the book and was like, what the heck is going on. Of course I was in the sixth grade at the time so that might have had a lot to do with it.

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  • TJCams
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    I'll check Netflix maybe

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  • T-Dogz_AK47
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    Originally posted by TJCams View Post
    It's been a VERY long time since I saw 2001. I am really going to have to find it and watch it again soon.
    It's a brilliant film, you won't regret it!

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  • TJCams
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    It's been a VERY long time since I saw 2001. I am really going to have to find it and watch it again soon.

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  • Theli
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    I completely agree T-Dogz, I love both 2001 and The Shining, and find neither boring. Both are mesmerizing with their visual displays.

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  • T-Dogz_AK47
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    Why Stanley Kubrick's 2001 A Space Odyssey is a masterpiece of film making

    Originally posted by srboone View Post
    2001 is my favorite movie. It's not boring to me at all. I can sit down and be mesmerized by a scene I've seen a hundred times.
    For me, it could only be described as boring if you go in expecting a generic Hollywood produced action movie. 2001 A Space Odyssey has real depth and time should be taken to appreciate it's many levels - rather like enjoying a fine wine.

    Like The Shining, this film's greatest strengths are in the details and artistic imagery. The beautiful expanse of space; the monoliths; the eerie use of silence and the chilling presence of the ship's computer HAL 9000. I have always been mesmerized by the sheer beauty of this film, which Arthur C Clarke's novel could never install, as itís almost impossible to achieve this kind of sensory impact via words on a page.

    Most people forget to realise that this film was released a year before the Moon landings. The sheer brilliance of Stanley Kubrick's visual imagination when making this film, is testimony to the fact why he is regarded as one of greatest movie directors of all time.

    Like it or loathe it, Stanley Kubrick's 2001 A Space Odyssey remains a modern masterpiece of film making.

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  • srboone
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    2001 is my favorite movie. It's not boring to me at all. I can sit down and be mesmerized by a scene I've seen a hundred times.

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  • TJCams
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    2001 was a little different, in that Kubrick and Arthur C Clarke wrote it together if my understanding is totally correct on that movie.

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  • Teriw
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    Going to be honest here, I didn't read T-Dogz reply because its just too long and I'm tired, I am sure I have hear it before but to each his/her own when you get down to it.

    Also didn't read RJK's(Sorry man, forgot your name) response just so ya know I am not just skipping T-Dogz because he disagrees. lol. But I find there is no middle ground with Kubricks The Shining, you either think its a materpiece or you hate it, I just hate it. Though, I will still buy it when the time comes.

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  • RJK1981
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    I've come to the sad conclusion that Kubrick's style just isn't for me. I might give 2001 another chance sometime, but found myself incredibly bored with it what I tried watching it before. I obviously didn't like The Shining, didn't really care for Full Metal Jacket after the basic training part, and I saw Eyes Wide Shut and wasn't impressed with that one either. If I remember correctly he died before finishing Eyes Wide Shut, and it did kinda feel like the movie had someone else finish it. Either way, I am 0/4 on enjoying his movies.

    My issue with REDRUM was that it just seemed STUPID to me, which is what I found irritating, as well as finding to voice and finger movement to be annoying, but also stupid. Kinda made the character of Danny into a bad joke for me. Would have been more creepy and effective if he had done REDRUM like it was in the book and not into something so moronic. Don't remember when it was that I saw the movie, but I don't remember anything particularly grating though, and I know for sure I wouldn't now. After my time in the Army, likely mostly to blame for when I was in Iraq and some of the very loud noises I was exposed to there for the first few months I was stationed there (Both incoming and outgoing), I now have constant ringing in my ears and will never hear complete silence again. But, the constant ringing has made annoying noises that become grating into something funny for me to use for laughs. Like at one of my previous jobs I'd let the beeping of our panini grill keep going off until someone else got annoyed enough with it to turn it off themselves. I also never really noticed things like the oven going off if I wasn't actively listening for it! So maybe there was a grating quality to The Shining, but it didn't quite have that effect on me. I don't know when the droning voice in FMJ occurred, but if it was during the basic training part I didn't find it annoying or anything. Don't remember thinking anything was annoying or anything in that movie actually, I just didn't care for it after the basic training section finished.

    Actually trying to annoy your viewers doesn't really seem like a good thing to me though, but he obviously had a good amount of fans, so it must have worked out alright for him, but it didn't work for me, which is fine, can't like everyone's style.

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  • srboone
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    Great exposition T-Dogz. I completely agree.

    Kubrick is known for his prolonged and repeated annoying sounds. There was the fork scraping across the plate in 2001; REDRUM in The Shining; Leonard Lawrence's droning voice in Full Metal Jacket; and many others. They're supposed to be annoying and grating on your nerves.

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  • RJK1981
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    I see what you are saying T-Dogz, but I don't think anything can fix my biggest problem with the movie, which is how they had Danny doing the REDRUM thing. That just really got irritating and annoying for me, and that has nothing to do with how it was different than book.

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