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I saw a note that dtd.org was having some issues. I don't go over there at all these days but I truly hope there is a solution for the forum. It contains a wealth of information for the SK collecting community.
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Originally posted by DanFranklin View PostHey there! Had someone ping me to chime in (and a reference to Coleridge poems are always a good way to summon me!)-- the cancellation of certain trade contracts was exclusively due to issues in acquisition. Far too many more projects were taken on than we can support. I will credit it to miscommunication or simple overenthusiasm for the product, but we can only produce a certain number of books before they begin drowning each other out and everyone loses. Releases get buried, promotion fails, editing errors start to gather up, and we simply don't have that many people-hours to devote to it. We were at nearly three times that threshold for 2024. A bunch of projects had to get cut. Good projects, too. It wasn't about the quality. Which projects stayed and went was largely decided by which are locked into third party deals (for example, Feb 1st has a release with three other companies involved, etc). If we didn't cut a bunch and get our line back on course, the authors would have lost money and a book, and we would have lost some money.
This way, while they are disappointed, they keep everything. We still lose some money (due to paid advances and design work) but far less so, and we maintain the integrity of the product that does release.
The trade line editors changed, but it wasn't a "changing of the guard" effect. It was a "look under the hood at the schedule and scream" situation. The cut projects would have been inevitable either way. The contracts were sadly doomed on issuance
As for the forum itself, I've not heard anything relating to discontinuation or any issues along those lines! I just don't have time to properly engage here beyond occasional posts in the Product Update thread. I hope with Lisa Lebel joining the crew to help the trade line, things will balance out a little more and we can get back to being more interactive/responsive
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Originally posted by DanFranklin View PostHey there! Had someone ping me to chime in (and a reference to Coleridge poems are always a good way to summon me!)-- the cancellation of certain trade contracts was exclusively due to issues in acquisition. Far too many more projects were taken on than we can support. I will credit it to miscommunication or simple overenthusiasm for the product, but we can only produce a certain number of books before they begin drowning each other out and everyone loses. Releases get buried, promotion fails, editing errors start to gather up, and we simply don't have that many people-hours to devote to it. We were at nearly three times that threshold for 2024. A bunch of projects had to get cut. Good projects, too. It wasn't about the quality. Which projects stayed and went was largely decided by which are locked into third party deals (for example, Feb 1st has a release with three other companies involved, etc). If we didn't cut a bunch and get our line back on course, the authors would have lost money and a book, and we would have lost some money.
This way, while they are disappointed, they keep everything. We still lose some money (due to paid advances and design work) but far less so, and we maintain the integrity of the product that does release.
The trade line editors changed, but it wasn't a "changing of the guard" effect. It was a "look under the hood at the schedule and scream" situation. The cut projects would have been inevitable either way. The contracts were sadly doomed on issuance
As for the forum itself, I've not heard anything relating to discontinuation or any issues along those lines! I just don't have time to properly engage here beyond occasional posts in the Product Update thread. I hope with Lisa Lebel joining the crew to help the trade line, things will balance out a little more and we can get back to being more interactive/responsive
As for the forum, I'm glad to hear that it isn't going anywhere. I also want to echo all the sentiments posted over the weekend that this truly is a wonderful little corner of the internet. Frankly, I avoid all social media and this is the only place that I post. The community may be small, but it's awfully welcoming and I'd hate for the forum and the community to disappear. If the choice is ever made to shutter the forum, I hope that advance notice would be given so we could hopefully figure out a solution to keep this community afloat elsewhere.
Anyways, thanks again for popping in and shedding some light on the situation!
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Hey there! Had someone ping me to chime in (and a reference to Coleridge poems are always a good way to summon me!)-- the cancellation of certain trade contracts was exclusively due to issues in acquisition. Far too many more projects were taken on than we can support. I will credit it to miscommunication or simple overenthusiasm for the product, but we can only produce a certain number of books before they begin drowning each other out and everyone loses. Releases get buried, promotion fails, editing errors start to gather up, and we simply don't have that many people-hours to devote to it. We were at nearly three times that threshold for 2024. A bunch of projects had to get cut. Good projects, too. It wasn't about the quality. Which projects stayed and went was largely decided by which are locked into third party deals (for example, Feb 1st has a release with three other companies involved, etc). If we didn't cut a bunch and get our line back on course, the authors would have lost money and a book, and we would have lost some money.
This way, while they are disappointed, they keep everything. We still lose some money (due to paid advances and design work) but far less so, and we maintain the integrity of the product that does release.
The trade line editors changed, but it wasn't a "changing of the guard" effect. It was a "look under the hood at the schedule and scream" situation. The cut projects would have been inevitable either way. The contracts were sadly doomed on issuance
As for the forum itself, I've not heard anything relating to discontinuation or any issues along those lines! I just don't have time to properly engage here beyond occasional posts in the Product Update thread. I hope with Lisa Lebel joining the crew to help the trade line, things will balance out a little more and we can get back to being more interactive/responsive
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Seems like jeffingoff and you should talk.
Originally posted by TacomaDiver View PostI like this community . . . $15/month to have a cloud hosted version of vBulletin with fairly limited traffic. Or $180 and I self-host it.
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Originally posted by RonClinton View Post
You need to add a JeffWord forum to your growing biblio-enterprise.
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The signed Cemetery Dance magazines, for lack of a better phrase, pissed me off.
The fact that they're being given away as contests items, not to those of who paid for subscriptions years ago, and who receive two issues every decade at best, was just frustrating. I get the prize angle, but the flat out NO from Rich on-line about subscribers even having a chance was upsetting.
I like this forum - I prefer to it the "other" one of a darker tower nature because of the drama and entitlement and attitudes with SO MANY of those members.
Never knew that this was Dan and Brian's project - knowing that does give me worry about this forum's longevity.
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Originally posted by jeffingoff View Post
That would be a heartbreak. Like you I often lurk and I love seeing the reviews, acquisitions, home libraries, and occasional motorcycles. I miss the people who no longer post like Brian861 (or is that just his DT handle? the world is moving on). There aren't many places that feel like home anymore.
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Originally posted by sholloman81 View PostMuch like everyone else, I would hate to see the forum go away. I may not always post daily, but I usually stop by at some point, even if it's just to creep. If CD does ever decide to get rid of the forum, I hope that they at least give a head's-up beforehand as I'd be completely bummed to show up and see that it's vanished.
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Originally posted by sholloman81 View PostMuch like everyone else, I would hate to see the forum go away. I may not always post daily, but I usually stop by at some point, even if it's just to creep. If CD does ever decide to get rid of the forum, I hope that they at least give a head's-up beforehand as I'd be completely bummed to show up and see that it's vanished.
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Much like everyone else, I would hate to see the forum go away. I may not always post daily, but I usually stop by at some point, even if it's just to creep. If CD does ever decide to get rid of the forum, I hope that they at least give a head's-up beforehand as I'd be completely bummed to show up and see that it's vanished.
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Originally posted by jeffingoff View Post
We are the crew on the Ancient Mariner's ship.
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Originally posted by Martin View Post
Add to that the fact that this entire forum was a labor of love from Dan Hocker who is no longer with CD. He and Brian kept it running with Mindy and Richard choosing to stay clear of it. Their decision is not an issue for me but once Mr. Hocker and Brian departed Dan Franklin and Kevin Lucia came in here and occasionally responding to questions. More often than not questions on here sit without a response. I believe this site was never desired or supported by Mr. Chizmar and once Dan and Brian left it has felt like a rudderless ship. Just my opinion, with no facts to back it up, but I am actually surprised it is still up.
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