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Originally posted by Martin View Post
I have no issue with increasing print runs on books. I have issue with increasing print runs after the book has already been sold based on a certain print run. That will erode the trust the buyer has in what the seller says and will ultimately hurt the seller.
Wow, look at this, Ron S., we finally found something to disagree about.
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Originally posted by swintek View Post
Eh', I don't know. I think he should make more books to meet demand. I, too, bought "Chainsaw", quickly, on the preorder, honestly with a little bit of FOMO in my decision, based on the quick sell out of his previous books from SST. I don't know that I will be a Stephen Graham Jones Collector going forward- I really *want* to like him. I've read a novella and some of "Indians" (my wife read it and loved it, and filled me in to the point where I don't know that I'll actually finish it- chalk that up to entirely my laziness, and far too many books to get to on my TBR pile, rather than the novel itself). The guy seems like my kind of writer, and a very interesting one at that. His style is very unique, and I'm hoping that I'm going to find something that will really click in there somewhere. All to say that's my toe-dipping into SGJ, which is a work in progress.
As to making enough books to meet demand: with some exceptions, I usually fall into the camp of making enough "special" books as folks' want. Even if that means increasing the amount of copies after I have already purchased a book with a stated print run. I guess it comes down to: do you want enough nice books produced for our entire small community, or do you want books that only you and not many others who want them can have. I know this is a divisive criteria when it comes to Book Collecting, but, I think there is a sweet spot vis-a-vis supply and demand. I sort of detest manufactured exclusivity when it enters book collecting. Aren't we all here, on these very message boards because we are a very small enlightened group of folks who absolutely love nice books? Why should there be ANY of us here who are not allowed to purchase these books because we were tending to our families or at work when they went on sale, or needed a few more weeks to scrape up the extra bread from our blue collar jobs (god bless you all) only to find that these books sold out in 10 minutes? Believe me, I understand that rarity and exclusivity are part of the juice of collecting, I really do. I guess my feeling is that the "Limited Edition" model used to be more palatable when these small press editions went on sale- the passionate folks within the small community were all able to obtain them (in some cases, had years before the books would fully sell out), and then they would mildly increase in "value". Now, it's just.. ugly, quite frankly. The Hype and FOMO absolutely rule the once gentle, and fun hobby of Small Press Book Collecting. I know that sounds very "Get Off My Lawn", but, surely (don't call me Shirley) some of the collectors here who've been around awhile have to have seen this distressing shift in Collecting values..?
Print as many nice books as whoever wants them NOW. Everyone will buy them and be happy, and they will eventually sell out and become rare and more valuable as new collectors find the beauty of nice books. Why would we want it any other way? Unless you're out to make a quick buck. In which case- please, use the stock market.
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Eh', I don't know. I think he should make more books to meet demand. I, too, bought "Chainsaw", quickly, on the preorder, honestly with a little bit of FOMO in my decision, based on the quick sell out of his previous books from SST. I don't know that I will be a Stephen Graham Jones Collector going forward- I really *want* to like him. I've read a novella and some of "Indians" (my wife read it and loved it, and filled me in to the point where I don't know that I'll actually finish it- chalk that up to entirely my laziness, and far too many books to get to on my TBR pile, rather than the novel itself). The guy seems like my kind of writer, and a very interesting one at that. His style is very unique, and I'm hoping that I'm going to find something that will really click in there somewhere. All to say that's my toe-dipping into SGJ, which is a work in progress.
As to making enough books to meet demand: with some exceptions, I usually fall into the camp of making enough "special" books as folks' want. Even if that means increasing the amount of copies after I have already purchased a book with a stated print run. I guess it comes down to: do you want enough nice books produced for our entire small community, or do you want books that only you and not many others who want them can have. I know this is a divisive criteria when it comes to Book Collecting, but, I think there is a sweet spot vis-a-vis supply and demand. I sort of detest manufactured exclusivity when it enters book collecting. Aren't we all here, on these very message boards because we are a very small enlightened group of folks who absolutely love nice books? Why should there be ANY of us here who are not allowed to purchase these books because we were tending to our families or at work when they went on sale, or needed a few more weeks to scrape up the extra bread from our blue collar jobs (god bless you all) only to find that these books sold out in 10 minutes? Believe me, I understand that rarity and exclusivity are part of the juice of collecting, I really do. I guess my feeling is that the "Limited Edition" model used to be more palatable when these small press editions went on sale- the passionate folks within the small community were all able to obtain them (in some cases, had years before the books would fully sell out), and then they would mildly increase in "value". Now, it's just.. ugly, quite frankly. The Hype and FOMO absolutely rule the once gentle, and fun hobby of Small Press Book Collecting. I know that sounds very "Get Off My Lawn", but, surely (don't call me Shirley) some of the collectors here who've been around awhile have to have seen this distressing shift in Collecting values..?
Print as many nice books as whoever wants them NOW. Everyone will buy them and be happy, and they will eventually sell out and become rare and more valuable as new collectors find the beauty of nice books. Why would we want it any other way? Unless you're out to make a quick buck. In which case- please, use the stock market.Last edited by swintek; 10-14-2021, 06:37 AM.
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Originally posted by Martin View Post
Changing the print run after taking sales is not a good business practice. There are Borderlands books out there that indicate different sized print runs based on the copy you have. I passed on this offering as the author has not clicked with me but I am glad SST did not mess with the offering after it had been made.
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Originally posted by joejets View PostSo SGJ's "Mt Heart is a Chainsaw" sold out pre-announcement and thus never got announced. Since it had not been announced, I would have expanded the print run by a few hundred to help meet unexpected demand. Looks like Camelot and Bad Moon never got allotted copies, or they also sold out pre-announcement. DRP had 7 copies when I got there, was sold out soon after.
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So SGJ's "Mt Heart is a Chainsaw" sold out pre-announcement and thus never got announced. Since it had not been announced, I would have expanded the print run by a few hundred to help meet unexpected demand. Looks like Camelot and Bad Moon never got allotted copies, or they also sold out pre-announcement. DRP had 7 copies when I got there, was sold out soon after.
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I wonder why there has been no further word on this for a week. I managed to snag a copy from DRP before they were gone there too.
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Are we allowed to talk about the ultra-quick sellout that just happened? I waited and missed out on a copy.
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Originally posted by jeffingoff View Post
I have two I've never read sitting on my shelf.
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Originally posted by Martin View Post
My previous readings from the author did not meat my expectations so I am passing.
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Originally posted by sholloman81 View PostVery happy with today's advance pre-order notice that was sent to the newsletter subscribers and LOVE that price-point for it. I immediately purchased a copy. Wish I could write more about it, but, Paul has asked us to wait until it is officially announced to everyone.
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Very happy with today's advance pre-order notice that was sent to the newsletter subscribers and LOVE that price-point for it. I immediately purchased a copy. Wish I could write more about it, but, Paul has asked us to wait until it is officially announced to everyone.
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I just ordered two more books from SST - about $110 for both, after shipping - which is a GREAT deal, especially when you factor in the shipping costs. Admittedly, I feel guilty at times using SST's discount codes, but Paul tosses them in every order, and I shouldn't feel guilty about it.
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