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bsaenz24
09-23-2011, 06:38 PM
Dracula by Bram Stoker
Different Seasons by Stephen King
The Foundation Trilogy by Asimov


So, what have you been meaning to read for a long time, but just haven't gotten to yet? You don't need to be "100%" ashamed, I will settle for mild embarrassment!!!

frik51
09-23-2011, 07:26 PM
You, my friend, should be 200% ashamed of yourself for not having read these classics! :p

sk

Ben Staad
09-23-2011, 09:09 PM
Maybe I should be 300% ashamed because I NEVER plan to read Asimov again...I hate Asimov and I don't even remember what I tried to read I just remember I severely hated it.

Edit: :p

bsaenz24
09-23-2011, 09:10 PM
The worst part is that I've owned copies of each for a llloooooonnnngggggg time.

TerryE
09-23-2011, 09:25 PM
As far as modern horror/suspense I guess what I most need to read is most of Peter Straub's work after "Floating Dragon".

Classics would be "War and Peace", "Crime and Punishment" and "The Turn of the Screw". I'm pretty caught up with most of the stuff that I really must read in my life. But I'm sure this thread is going to remind me of some that I need to add to my list.

srboone
09-23-2011, 11:16 PM
Books I'm ashamed of not having read:

War and Peace (you're not alone in having this on your TBR list, TerryE.)
The Phantom of the Opera
The Decameron
For Whom the Bell Tolls, The Sun Also Rises
Brave New World
1984
Rose Madder, Duma Key, Under the Dome, Just After Sunset
More books by Laymon and Ketchum (cause the ones I have read were awesome and redefined the horror genre for me!)

I can't recall ever reading anything by Asimov or Simmons, but I'm not ashamed of that.

HorrorScribe
09-26-2011, 07:52 PM
I've always felt as if I should read more Dickens and Twain. I read one work by each because I was assigned the books (A Tale of Two Cities & A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court, respectively) in high school. 10th grade in fact. And I was an English major in college. Shameful!!

RJK1981
09-27-2011, 04:37 AM
Dracula by Bram Stoker
Frankenstein by Marry Shelly
Ghost Story by Peter Straub
Friday Night Lights by H.G. Bissinger (have started this before but got distracted and never finished it)

srboone
09-27-2011, 04:44 AM
And I was an English major in college. Shameful!!

So was I, that's where my shame come from! I have only read A Christmas Carol by Dickens, so I have any one book by Dickens on my TBR list--whichever one I feel like reading eventually. I've read enough of Mark Twain to know that I don't care for his writings...(Dr. Edwards hated that about me. Oh well...)

peteOcha
09-27-2011, 02:56 PM
I won't post mine... When I started thinking about what I haven't read yet, the shame became too hard to bear. :D

Add another English major to the list here. ;)

frik51
09-27-2011, 03:21 PM
I won't post mine... When I started thinking about what I haven't read yet, the shame became too hard to bear. :D

Oh come on, post away, Pete.
I never read Shakespeare (for instance) till last year...Couldn't get my degree without having him on my list...

sk

srboone
09-27-2011, 07:30 PM
Pete.....we're waitng...

And no Shakespeare, Siep?!?!?!?!?! Never too late to start, tho. I had read about 10 of his plays before even discovering King in1981.

Of course, I could fill many pages with the dark fantasy/horror/suspense books I've never read (especially the one discussed here--some of the authors i've never heard of!)

Dave1442397
09-28-2011, 12:08 PM
Edward Gibbon's THE DECLINE AND FALL OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE.

Now that I was reminded, I just bought all six volumes on Kindle for under $10. Not bad! It will take a long time to get through them, but I've always wanted to read it.

I read many of the classics when I was a kid. My grandparents had a big old bookcase full of books going back generations, and there were books going back to the late 1600s. I'm sure some of the classics were first editions, which meant nothing to me then. Many of them were old enough that the 's' looked like an 'f', and it was cool to see names and dates of owners from the 1800s.

peteOcha
09-28-2011, 12:22 PM
Ok, ok...

Here's one from the classics: ...wait for it....

.....


"To Kill a Mocking Bird" :eek:

From the horror pool, nothing (YET) by the following:

Lovecraft :eek:
Bentley Little
Jack Ketchum (i really want to pick up "The Woman")

and probably several more, but those are the big names that first come to mind.

...Let he cast the first stone who is without fault. :P

frik51
09-28-2011, 02:04 PM
From the horror pool, nothing (YET) by the following:

Lovecraft :eek:

You really should tacke Lovecraft!
From cosmic horror to the Necronomicon, the Cthulhu mythos cycle - plus opne of King's biggest influences: simply the best.

sk

srboone
09-28-2011, 07:42 PM
Edward Gibbon's THE DECLINE AND FALL OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE.

Now that I was reminded, I just bought all six volumes on Kindle for under $10. Not bad! It will take a long time to get through them, but I've always wanted to read it.

I read many of the classics when I was a kid. My grandparents had a big old bookcase full of books going back generations, and there were books going back to the late 1600s. I'm sure some of the classics were first editions, which meant nothing to me then. Many of them were old enough that the 's' looked like an 'f', and it was cool to see names and dates of owners from the 1800s.

Years ago, I bought the 8-vol. set of TFotRE from The Folio Society and it's still gathering dust on my shelf. But housed in 2 slipcases, it makes great bookends!:rolleyes:

It's not on my TBR list anymore, but...we'll see.

And no ones casting stones, Pete. Not big ones anyway! Pebbles, maybe!;)

jester05jk
09-30-2011, 04:32 AM
Ok, ok...

Here's one from the classics: ...wait for it....

.....


"To Kill a Mocking Bird" :eek:

From the horror pool, nothing (YET) by the following:

Lovecraft :eek:
Bentley Little
Jack Ketchum (i really want to pick up "The Woman")

and probably several more, but those are the big names that first come to mind.

...Let he cast the first stone who is without fault. :P


You can't start with The Woman. As the man once told me, start with the first, his first and go from there. Off Season, Offspring, The Woman. All very good.

peteOcha
09-30-2011, 08:52 AM
You can't start with The Woman. As the man once told me, start with the first, his first and go from there. Off Season, Offspring, The Woman. All very good.

Thanks for the tip. I guess I'll have to try and find those somewhere and start from there...

HorrorScribe
09-30-2011, 04:24 PM
My only saving grace as a former English major is that I'm unofficially starting a Masters of Arts in English degree this fall. My first course is Literature of the Renaissance, so I finally got around to reading Machiavelli's The Prince (a book I've always been very curious about) as well as a more thorough look at More's Utopia. Perhaps once I've earned this new degree, I can lessen my shame a bit as I may become a little less adverse to use my "pleasure" reading time solely toward contemporary fiction. Of course, that's what i thought as an undergrad...

RJK1981
09-30-2011, 05:16 PM
You can't start with The Woman. As the man once told me, start with the first, his first and go from there. Off Season, Offspring, The Woman. All very good.

Thanks for the tip. When this was announced I had no idea it was something following another book (or 2 books as the case is), but had heard somewhere that it followed these books. Good to hear for sure that it is so I don't read it right away when the CD edition ships, unless I get Offspring and read that and Off Season by then

RJK1981
09-30-2011, 05:17 PM
Thanks for the tip. I guess I'll have to try and find those somewhere and start from there...

You could probably find the paperback editions of these for cheap at a used book store like Half Priced Books or at places like Amazon or eBay

theenormityofitall
11-09-2011, 12:26 AM
I should look over this forum more. I've noticed I've had no idea several dozen threads even existed.
Books I'm ashamed of not having read:
I can't say Dracula because I don't like vampire books/movies.

But here are some:
1. Animal Farm (I did read 1984).

2. The Naked and The Dead

3. A Christmas Carol and David Copperfield

4. Red, by Ketchum even though I'm a big fan of his

5. The Old Man and the Sea

6. Too damn many to list. But I'm also ashamed that even with novels I really like, I finish 90-95% of them sometimes then put it aside to try and finish later, or purposely forget about it and store it away for a non-fiction book.

TerryE
11-09-2011, 02:54 PM
Animal Farm and The Old Man and the Sea were required reading for me in high school English and both very good. And you could read Old Man in a single sitting.

Dan Hocker
11-09-2011, 02:58 PM
Animal Farm and The Old Man and the Sea were required reading for me in high school English and both very good. And you could read Old Man in a single sitting.

I think I remember reading Animal Farm in high school as well (maybe middle school, can't remember). I also had to read The Jungle, Watership Down, and All Quiet on the Western Front. All books that I probably never would have read if I didn't have to, but once read I feel like they are probably books everyone should read at some point in their life.

theenormityofitall
11-09-2011, 05:12 PM
I think I remember reading Animal Farm in high school as well (maybe middle school, can't remember). I also had to read The Jungle, Watership Down, and All Quiet on the Western Front. All books that I probably never would have read if I didn't have to, but once read I feel like they are probably books everyone should read at some point in their life.
It's very odd now that I think of it, but I only remember doing one single book report in my life. I was either a junior or senior and I guess the class was either English Lit or American Lit since I know the book was Flowers in the Attic. It was a book I had read years earlier because my mom had read that one and I think 2 more were written?? Anyway, another odd thing is that I had to go up to the teacher's desk and remember feeling embarrassed answering questions about the brother and sister's incestous relationship. Books like Animal Farm and the others I mentioned I don't recall ever hearing about in those days. Too young I guess. Besides, I was at that time and way before then, reading those big non-fiction books Reader's Digest used to put out about true mysteries and supernatural stuff, etc (I loved those things and still have them).
But as for reading The Old Man and the Sea and being able to read in one sitting...I doubt I could do that unless I was in the proper mood simply because it's a novel. And something else that's odd is that I can seemingly only read at night, same with movies. But can any of you guys tell me what you consider to be the top 3 best works of Mailer and Hemingway?? I get tired of horror novels and short stories all the time, even by Lovecraft and Poe. But I've read just about everything they wrote anyway (the best horror writers in history of course).

theenormityofitall
11-09-2011, 05:20 PM
One more thing....Terry said he read Animal Farm in highschool and The Old Man and the Sea and you Dan, said you read Animal Farm but those other books too....can you guys tell me what years that was? May have nothing to do with that but just depends on the school or teacher, but I graduated in 1984 funny enough. Funny kinda because of the famous sorta "true novel" or "non-ficton novel" by the same name. At least I saw it as being non-fiction written in a novel format (I know people will disagree with me on that but it was obvious the entire book was about what was taking place in the world when he wrote it just like Animal Farm), in almost the same way of Capote's In Cold Blood (excellent book).

Dan Hocker
11-09-2011, 05:49 PM
One more thing....Terry said he read Animal Farm in highschool and The Old Man and the Sea and you Dan, said you read Animal Farm but those other books too....can you guys tell me what years that was? May have nothing to do with that but just depends on the school or teacher, but I graduated in 1984 funny enough. Funny kinda because of the famous sorta "true novel" or "non-ficton novel" by the same name. At least I saw it as being non-fiction written in a novel format (I know people will disagree with me on that but it was obvious the entire book was about what was taking place in the world when he wrote it just like Animal Farm), in almost the same way of Capote's In Cold Blood (excellent book).

I'm not 100% sure when I actually read those books. I graduated in 2005 if that helps. I know I read All Quiet on the Western Front for a writing class in college.

theenormityofitall
11-09-2011, 06:10 PM
I'm not 100% sure when I actually read those books. I graduated in 2005 if that helps. I know I read All Quiet on the Western Front for a writing class in college.
I think it actually does help...because of this: what surprises me is not just that in the 2000-2005...they would still consider these novels masterpieces and not somehow politically incorrect the way things are nowadays. I know Orwell was supposedly a socialist, but he at least had some common sense and tried to tell the world of the evils of Stalinism, but I would think nowadays the teachers/professors would say Orwell was a nut criticizing the great mass murding Stalin simply because socilaism/communism is supposed to be so wonderful nowadays in so called "academia"....I have to watch it, getting into the political stuff again. But in the 80's there was no such thing as that idiocy. But what also surprises me is how young you are. 2005!! Man, that's makes me feel like the old man with his sea lol.

TerryE
11-09-2011, 06:11 PM
Well, Enorm, that must be a big difference in our school systems. I graduated the same year that you did (and Squire Boone, too, as it turns out). We had assigned novels every year from at least 8th grade on. We read Lloyd Alexander's "The Book of Three" in 8th grade during our section on fantasy and horror. That was the best for me, as it was when I wrote my first horror story for an assignment. It was a tale heavily inspired by Salem's Lot & Alien which were both fresh in my life.

9th grade included "Great Expectations" and "MacBeth". 10th grade had "Animal Farm", "To Kill a Mockingbird", and "Julius Caesar", "A Separate Peace" and "The Old Man and the Sea." In 11th we got to pick our own books from a large list, but had to finish 8 of them that year. The ones I remember are "A Tale of Two Cities", "Red Badge of Courage" (which I also used for an American History report), "Catch 22", and "The Fountainhead". Senior year was much more relaxed. All I remember there was "Hamlet", "Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man" (which I couldn't finish) and "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead".

FYI, "In Cold Blood" was non-fiction, but "1984" was science fiction, but definitely an extrapolation of where Orwell thought things were going in the near future.

theenormityofitall
11-09-2011, 07:05 PM
Well, Enorm, that must be a big difference in our school systems. I graduated the same year that you did (and Squire Boone, too, as it turns out). We had assigned novels every year from at least 8th grade on. We read Lloyd Alexander's "The Book of Three" in 8th grade during our section on fantasy and horror. That was the best for me, as it was when I wrote my first horror story for an assignment. It was a tale heavily inspired by Salem's Lot & Alien which were both fresh in my life.

9th grade included "Great Expectations" and "MacBeth". 10th grade had "Animal Farm", "To Kill a Mockingbird", and "Julius Caesar", "A Separate Peace" and "The Old Man and the Sea." In 11th we got to pick our own books from a large list, but had to finish 8 of them that year. The ones I remember are "A Tale of Two Cities", "Red Badge of Courage" (which I also used for an American History report), "Catch 22", and "The Fountainhead". Senior year was much more relaxed. All I remember there was "Hamlet", "Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man" (which I couldn't finish) and "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead".

FYI, "In Cold Blood" was non-fiction, but "1984" was science fiction, but definitely an extrapolation of where Orwell thought things were going in the near future.
Damn!! There's no way we read any of those books you mentioned...I went to Wesclin high school until I was a sophmore and finished off my last two years at O'fallon Township highschool, one of the best in the country, whereas Wesclin is one of the worst and both about 15 miles or so from each other in rural southern IL. I do in fact remember reading in English class in 9th grade a lot of books, but not taking them seriously at the time because I was such a goof-off. I don't think I actually read them, just in class certain passages and because I was hanging around with the wrong guys, I took nothing seriously, especially after actually getting the first "F" in that very class. I actually had to take it again even though it was for freshmen only. I got a lot of hell from my mom for that lol, and looking back on it, I defintely wished I had taken school much more seriously than I did. But after that first F, I didn't give a shit anymore and actually had to take a class in summer school so I could graduate with my class. Personal things here, but it was so long ago it doesn't mean much to me at this point. Anyway, because I did so badly at Wesclin my mom moved us to O'fallon and that school was GREAT. I took virtually all history courses, not the easy crap for easy credit. But I can't believe you read all those books in highschool?? I could see that in college, but highschool? I'm not doubting what you're saying, I just mean that really surprises me that books like that were mandatory in highschool, it really does depend on what school you go to I guess. But because I was always so interested in history, I never appreciated the "classics" like I began to do in my 20's.
And as for 1984, you say it's science fiction. It may be labeled that way in what would take place in the future, but I took it as an assault on both Stalin and the evils of totalitarianism. It's also amazing to me that the title of that book was about the same year where mandatory seatbelt laws came into effect in IL and around the country, actually forcing adults to wear them while driving a car, and it's just gotten so much worse since then that I don't even consider this country to be "Free" anymore at all. We're controlled by the government in every way imaginable. And I know In Cold Blood was non-fiction but it was written in the format of a novel.
Oh well, that's enough. Yet another post of mine that was too damn long.

jester05jk
11-11-2011, 03:07 AM
I think what books you read in high school vary by state. I know at our school they cycled the books on a 4 year rotation so everyone was pretty much reading the same thing. Maybe to prevent cheating??

All I remember reading tho was The Crucible, Animal Farm(although I read both that and 1984 in middle school), The Scarlet Letter, all of Shakespeare, and To Kill a Mockingbird. And I graduated in 2002.

Dan Hocker
11-11-2011, 02:33 PM
At least at my school it really varied by teacher. Some teachers didn't even do the book reports.

TerryE
11-12-2011, 12:11 AM
I think what books you read in high school vary by state. I know at our school they cycled the books on a 4 year rotation so everyone was pretty much reading the same thing. Maybe to prevent cheating??

All I remember reading tho was The Crucible, Animal Farm(although I read both that and 1984 in middle school), The Scarlet Letter, all of Shakespeare, and To Kill a Mockingbird. And I graduated in 2002.

All of Shakespeare!!! I see you're in the Baltimore area & I grew up around here too. Back in the 80s we handled one Shakespeare play each year, and they were the more famous/important ones.

Oh, and I just remembered "Of Mice and Men" was assigned in 10th and I read "Grapes of Wrath" in 11th grade.

TerryE
11-12-2011, 12:19 AM
At least at my school it really varied by teacher. Some teachers didn't even do the book reports.

I loved my 12th grade English teacher. An English term paper is required for graduation in the state, so we had to do one. however Mr. Fieldhouse understood how busy we were and that he wasn't going to force another "research" paper on us. His plan worked well with his "sped-ed" class (yes, his actual words), so we were permitted to turn in a term paper that was completely made up. Of course it had to have proper foot-noting, quotes, and a properly formatted bibliography even if we did make up the sources. I took my idea from him when he made a remark earlier in the year about how Isaac Asimov could never have written all the books attributed to him. I checked it out and even at that time (1984), Asimov had written well over 300 books. So my report was written in 2020, after Asimov's death and the discover that he was actually a whole society or "Association of Scientists, Inventors, Mathematicians and Other Vocations" who all decided to write under one psuedonym.

tweetygirl0606
11-18-2011, 01:45 AM
There are so many books that I haven't read that I don't even know where to begin..I can say I've read Dracula and The Catcher in the Rye. And I haven't read War and Peace, either...don't know if I want to get into that one..:p

theenormityofitall
11-22-2011, 05:08 PM
At least at my school it really varied by teacher. Some teachers didn't even do the book reports.
That sounds exactly like the 2 schools I went to lol.

theenormityofitall
11-22-2011, 05:15 PM
There are so many books that I haven't read that I don't even know where to begin..I can say I've read Dracula and The Catcher in the Rye. And I haven't read War and Peace, either...don't know if I want to get into that one..:p
Catcher in the Rye! I remember hearing so much about it I guess after Lennon was shot, and I decided to read it myself and it remains one of the most great novels I've ever read. It's amazing it was written in the 40's and I could relate to the kid in the book 100%. But I don't understand the author? Why did he become some recluse?? I heard he died about a year ago.

srboone
02-15-2012, 11:28 PM
The Haunting of Hill House byShirley Jackson. Someone's post in their collection thread remeinded me that I had not read this one. And the TBR continues to grow (after I'd whittled it down so far...).

bookworm 1
02-16-2012, 12:08 AM
Yes you must read haunting great book.If you have not read it her short stry collection is awsome to.

Ben Staad
02-16-2012, 12:13 AM
The Haunting of Hill House byShirley Jackson. Someone's post in their collection thread remeinded me that I had not read this one. And the TBR continues to grow (after I'd whittled it down so far...).

I've wanted to read this however my library system does not have this book and they cannot locate one for me...

TerryE
02-16-2012, 03:28 AM
Squire and cope, you must both read The Haunting of Hill House. If you don't own a copy, you should be able to find some copy for a few bucks somewhere. It is one of the finest haunted house stories ever written.

RJK1981
02-16-2012, 04:11 AM
You can find it cheap on Amazon if you want to purchase it. I still need to read it as well

srboone
02-16-2012, 04:22 AM
I know, I keep debating whether I want to do that or get a really nice copy of it. I could always find a $.01 copy of it, and throw it in my paperback collection, I guess, til I decide...

Tasmaniac
02-16-2012, 09:18 AM
The Wilds by Richard Laymon.

I heard a while ago that this was going to be released again in paperback - was that Leisure?

RJK1981
02-16-2012, 06:06 PM
I hadn't heard that about The Wilds, but that would be cool. If it was Leisure who was going to publish it (Which I am quite sure would be correct as they published a lot of his paperback stuff) then we'll have to see if another publisher picks it up being Leisure/Dorchester Publications/DP (They started using DP to fool people into not realizing it was Dorchester) is basically a dead company at this point. There is a large boycott of their stuff, which I fully support and won't be buying a single thing published by them except from places like Half Price Books since I know those books were paid for already (though whether the authors were paid is another question).n Even then, unless I REALLY want the book I won't even buy a Leisure book from any source at all

Tasmaniac
02-16-2012, 10:14 PM
I hadn't heard that about The Wilds, but that would be cool. If it was Leisure who was going to publish it (Which I am quite sure would be correct as they published a lot of his paperback stuff) then we'll have to see if another publisher picks it up being Leisure/Dorchester Publications/DP (They started using DP to fool people into not realizing it was Dorchester) is basically a dead company at this point. There is a large boycott of their stuff, which I fully support and won't be buying a single thing published by them except from places like Half Price Books since I know those books were paid for already (though whether the authors were paid is another question).n Even then, unless I REALLY want the book I won't even buy a Leisure book from any source at all

I'm going back two or three years, before everything hit the fan. Maybe it was just a project that never got off the ground - does anyone else remember this?

Teriw
02-16-2012, 11:45 PM
There's a whole lot I am ashamed to have never read. I just started reading not long ago and havent even read half of the SK books I own and I dont even own them all. The Classic King books I am most ashamed of like Carrie, It, Christine, just off the top of my head. I even bought the 25th IT gift ed but have never read it at all. I dont read my books though. I use my ereader which is so much easier and convenient. I keep picking newer books to read first. Well my first SK book was The Drawing of the Three, someone picked it up for me not knowing it was part of a series...anyway...after that I read the whole DT series then I mixed it up a bit n read a few in a jumbled manner but lately I read Bag of Bones, quickly before the Mini came out, then Under The Dome because of the Shotime rumours, On writing because I got into writing again and now The Talisman just cuz someone told me to. I'll get around to them all eventually then find something else I like if the time ever comes when I have no more SK to read.

theenormityofitall
02-26-2012, 10:47 PM
if the time ever comes when I have no more SK to read.

I don't think that's possible LOL. For me it would take several lifetimes just to read the Dark Tower Series.

theenormityofitall
02-26-2012, 10:48 PM
LOL I just saw the changes to the forum......"Receiving Daily Medication" couldn't be more true!!

Grant Wootton
02-26-2012, 11:20 PM
Good to see you back Scot :cool:

bookworm 1
02-26-2012, 11:38 PM
It was released in the same book as Friday night in Beast house that leisure put out a couple years ago.Before all the nonsence started to come out over there.
The Wilds by Richard Laymon.

I heard a while ago that this was going to be released again in paperback - was that Leisure?

Teriw
02-26-2012, 11:49 PM
I don't think that's possible LOL. For me it would take several lifetimes just to read the Dark Tower Series.

Oh it will happen eventually because he has to die sometime and I'll be around quite a while after him...assuming I die of old age *Crossing fingers*

theenormityofitall
02-27-2012, 01:31 AM
Good to see you back Scot :cool:

Thanks Grant, but not quite back yet. I have a lot of catching up to do and the main reason I haven't been around for awhile is because I bought a new toy: a Samsung Galaxy MP3 player I've been messing with for days now.
But I'll be back permantely soon enough:)

theenormityofitall
02-27-2012, 01:33 AM
Oh it will happen eventually because he has to die sometime and I'll be around quite a while after him...assuming I die of old age *Crossing fingers*

LOL I wish I could say I'd be around long after him. I'm not as old as he is (I'm 45) but ya never know what life could bring ya (death at any moment!).

Teriw
02-27-2012, 01:35 AM
LOL I wish I could say I'd be around long after him. I'm not as old as he is (I'm 45) but ya never know what life could bring ya (death at any moment!).

Thats why I am crossing my fingers. I could just as easily die driving home from work in 25 minutes.

srboone
02-27-2012, 01:51 AM
But death could be waiting for at home! Your bf's (I'm learning the lingo!) DVD's might know you've harbored evil thoughts about them!

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/4420/sui4.jpg

Grant Wootton
02-27-2012, 03:23 AM
Ah, that's one of the Questions of the Ages answered for (some of) us - Scott & Teri aren't the same person ;)

theenormityofitall
02-27-2012, 07:24 PM
Ah, that's one of the Questions of the Ages answered for (some of) us - Scott & Teri aren't the same person ;)

Did ya really think I was Grant? I've invented a couple dozen characters on various forums I'm involved with but not here. I like fooling around but not when it concerns books! I'm deadly serious about those.....:D

Teriw
02-27-2012, 08:15 PM
I'm still alive if anyones wondering. But I'm glad to finally know who Scott is.

Tasmaniac
02-27-2012, 09:47 PM
It was released in the same book as Friday night in Beast house that leisure put out a couple years ago.Before all the nonsence started to come out over there.

Thank you, Bookworm 1!

Gonna track that sucker down!

Grant Wootton
02-27-2012, 11:03 PM
Nah Scott, didn't really think Teri and you were the same person, it's just that Teri sounded a lot like you (in a good way) when she first came on board, just used far fewer words :D

tweetygirl0606
02-29-2012, 09:30 PM
Thanks for the tip. When this was announced I had no idea it was something following another book (or 2 books as the case is), but had heard somewhere that it followed these books. Good to hear for sure that it is so I don't read it right away when the CD edition ships, unless I get Offspring and read that and Off Season by then

Same here. I didn't know that there were 2 other books before The Woman. And I just finished reading The Woman, too!! Even though I didn't read the first 2, I still loved it, though. I just have to save my pennies for Off Season and Offspring.

TerryE
03-01-2012, 03:27 PM
I got my paperback copies through amazon when The Woman was announced.

Xiabei
03-31-2012, 10:22 PM
Nothing. I don't do the "I should read this book" thing. If I can't say "I want to read this book", then I probably won't, regardless of how many people like it or consider it a "classic". I read many different types of books, but if I start one and it isn't doing anything for me, I stop reading.

But as far as there being many books I haven't read yet that I'd like to, sure, there's a ton, but I don't feel ashamed about that because that implies that you're applying someone else's standards of what's "proper" to your own behavior. And that I don't do. :o

Teriw
03-31-2012, 11:33 PM
You put WAY to much thought into this question.

Grant Wootton
03-31-2012, 11:54 PM
But in a good way, I think :D

Teriw
04-01-2012, 12:04 AM
I dont agree. Just because your ashamed you haven't read something doesn't mean you think you SHOULD read it. The ones I picked are ones I REALLY wanna read but ya can't read em all at once.

Grant Wootton
04-01-2012, 02:05 AM
S'all good, however; I'm still giving Xiabei Rep Points for a brilliant analysis on how he/she sees the question :cool:

Merlin1958
04-01-2012, 05:04 AM
Dracula by Bram Stoker
Different Seasons by Stephen King
The Foundation Trilogy by Asimov


So, what have you been meaning to read for a long time, but just haven't gotten to yet? You don't need to be "100%" ashamed, I will settle for mild embarrassment!!!

No offense, but dude you need to start reading!!!! Those are some "classic" titles you will never forget!!!


Reading is fundamental!!!!!

Take it from "Gramps"!!! I speak the truth!!! LOL

Oh, and add "The Magic of Xanth" by Piers Anthony, "The Exorcist" by William Peter Blatty, "The Shining" by Stephen King and "Ghost Story" by Peter Straub. Not to mention (which you didn't) "The Lord of the Rings" by J.R.R. Tolkien!!!!

frik51
04-01-2012, 11:51 AM
Oh, and add "The Exorcist" by William Peter Blatty

Well.....
I'm afraid I find this book one of the most hyped, over-rated ever.
Didn't care for the movie (NOT scary whatsoever), nor the book...

sk

srboone
04-01-2012, 11:59 AM
Agree about the book, disagree about the movie (theatrical, directors cut sucked!)

bookworm 1
04-01-2012, 08:22 PM
I wonder what it takes to scare Frik if that movie did not.The original Chainsaw maybe.I liked the exorcist and it did scare me and still kind of creeps me out.

srboone
04-01-2012, 08:31 PM
Somewhere, in some thread, I think I described reading the book was like listening to a 10-year old-stutterer reading from the thesaurus. :o

And the director's cut of the movie didn't make any sense and ruined the otherwise flawless performances of the main actors.

bookworm 1
04-01-2012, 08:48 PM
Glad I never saw the directors cut then.

Merlin1958
04-02-2012, 01:50 AM
Well.....
I'm afraid I find this book one of the most hyped, over-rated ever.
Didn't care for the movie (NOT scary whatsoever), nor the book...

sk

Well, to each his own.

Teriw
04-02-2012, 03:18 AM
I've never read the book but Will agree with Siep on the movie, NOT AT ALL SCARY and most certainly extremely boring.

frik51
04-02-2012, 08:04 AM
I wonder what it takes to scare Frik if that movie did not.

One movie that really scared me was Wait Until Dark, with an amazing performance by Audrey Hepburn.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_er4KMIapIQk/SKAu-3AQVFI/AAAAAAAAAdU/wgA-QINtkWU/s400/Wait+Until+Dark.jpg

Actually, I should say, the climax of the movie scared me. I remember sitting on the edge of my seat (literally), hands in front of my eyes....peeking....looking away again...
That was scary.
The Exorcist had the occasional booh-moments, but it just wasn't scary...to me.

sk

bookworm 1
04-02-2012, 10:17 AM
That is one creepy looking guy.I might have to check out that movie.

srboone
04-02-2012, 10:55 AM
Another movie for my TBW list! Thanks, Siep! (Loved Way of the Arrows, BTW.)

bookworm 1
04-02-2012, 01:37 PM
Wow TBR and TBW.If I started a TBW pile it would be bigger then my TBR pile.

Xiabei
04-02-2012, 01:52 PM
I dont agree. Just because your ashamed you haven't read something doesn't mean you think you SHOULD read it. The ones I picked are ones I REALLY wanna read but ya can't read em all at once.

I understand what you're saying... perhaps it comes down to semantics. To me, a sense of shame originates from outside influences - if I neglect to brush my teeth, I don't feel ashamed, even though it's something I should have done. I just didn't do it. No biggie. Now, extend that to going out in public with bad breath and food stuck in my teeth - then yes, I would be ashamed of the way I'm presenting myself to other people because of something I failed to do.

Or I could not take a shower for a few days and walk around the house with smelly armpits - no problem. But if I then go out in public and am aware of the way I smell and I start thinking of how other people will react when they smell me and realize I haven't taken a shower, then yes, I would feel a sense of "shame" for not having taken a shower - but only because it's the "acceptable" thing to do in society. In private, it doesn't matter at all.

So to me, whether or not I've read a book has no bearing or influence on the outside world, and therefore there is no "shame" for me for not having done so. That's where I'm coming from, anyway.

Xiabei
04-02-2012, 01:53 PM
S'all good, however; I'm still giving Xiabei Rep Points for a brilliant analysis on how he/she sees the question :cool:

Thank you. This male appreciates it. :cool:

I suppose I do tend to overthink things sometimes, though; see my response to Teriw.

Grant Wootton
04-02-2012, 04:54 PM
Maybe so, but it's damn good reading just the same :cool:

Teriw
04-02-2012, 06:26 PM
I understand what you're saying... perhaps it comes down to semantics. To me, a sense of shame originates from outside influences - if I neglect to brush my teeth, I don't feel ashamed, even though it's something I should have done. I just didn't do it. No biggie. Now, extend that to going out in public with bad breath and food stuck in my teeth - then yes, I would be ashamed of the way I'm presenting myself to other people because of something I failed to do.

Or I could not take a shower for a few days and walk around the house with smelly armpits - no problem. But if I then go out in public and am aware of the way I smell and I start thinking of how other people will react when they smell me and realize I haven't taken a shower, then yes, I would feel a sense of "shame" for not having taken a shower - but only because it's the "acceptable" thing to do in society. In private, it doesn't matter at all.

So to me, whether or not I've read a book has no bearing or influence on the outside world, and therefore there is no "shame" for me for not having done so. That's where I'm coming from, anyway.

I really do hope you are showering and brushing your teeth though, lol.

Xiabei
04-02-2012, 09:13 PM
I really do hope you are showering and brushing your teeth though, lol.

I knew that was coming, haha. I kept thinking I should have used different examples! :)

peteOcha
04-04-2012, 10:09 AM
I understand what you're saying... perhaps it comes down to semantics. To me, a sense of shame originates from outside influences - if I neglect to brush my teeth, I don't feel ashamed, even though it's something I should have done. I just didn't do it. No biggie. Now, extend that to going out in public with bad breath and food stuck in my teeth - then yes, I would be ashamed of the way I'm presenting myself to other people because of something I failed to do.

Or I could not take a shower for a few days and walk around the house with smelly armpits - no problem. But if I then go out in public and am aware of the way I smell and I start thinking of how other people will react when they smell me and realize I haven't taken a shower, then yes, I would feel a sense of "shame" for not having taken a shower - but only because it's the "acceptable" thing to do in society. In private, it doesn't matter at all.

So to me, whether or not I've read a book has no bearing or influence on the outside world, and therefore there is no "shame" for me for not having done so. That's where I'm coming from, anyway.

Very well put!

bookworm 1
04-04-2012, 11:30 AM
Yea.I agree.The shower thing is funny.Every July I spend a week at Boyscout camp.The only indoor building is the mess hall.By Thursday it smells like wet dog.The kids think if you are swimming that should take care of the smell.Well boys will be boys.

Joe315
04-05-2012, 03:37 AM
Yea.I agree.The shower thing is funny.Every July I spend a week at Boyscout camp.The only indoor building is the mess hall.By Thursday it smells like wet dog.The kids think if you are swimming that should take care of the smell.Well boys will be boys.

Speaking of smelly kids, I remember my 4th Grade teacher telling our class that we need to start showering in the morning using deodorant.

bookworm 1
04-05-2012, 11:35 AM
Anyway if you like it read it if not stop and move on.I had to do that with Weaveworld last week.It's like Ghost Story.I have not read it yet.Plan to this year.However I find Straubs shorter works more enjoyable then his longer books.

Xiabei
04-13-2012, 04:49 AM
Anyway if you like it read it if not stop and move on.I had to do that with Weaveworld last week.It's like Ghost Story.I have not read it yet.Plan to this year.However I find Straubs shorter works more enjoyable then his longer books.

I remember reading Weaveworld a long time ago; may have to check it out again. Haven't thought of that one in a long time.

frik51
04-13-2012, 04:54 PM
I remember reading Weaveworld a long time ago;

Same here - 1986? It was my first Barker. I barely remember the storyline, but I do remember being really impressed and liking it - very much.

sk

Neiaushie79
02-21-2013, 04:58 PM
The list is long, but the main three are Ghost Story, Clockwork Orange, and Lord of the Flies (probably because the movie made me cry). I feel the need to bow my head in shame just typing this.

Teriw
02-22-2013, 12:56 AM
I bow my head in shame that I wasted my time reading The Lord of the Flies

Neiaushie79
02-22-2013, 01:07 AM
I bow my head in shame that I wasted my time reading The Lord of the Flies

Wow, is it really that bad?

Joe315
02-22-2013, 01:14 AM
Teri doesn't like much. ;)

I remember liking it when I read it in high school but thats a while back. I have wanted to reread it but haven't had the time.

Martin
02-22-2013, 02:11 AM
I didn't know King wrote that.
I bow my head in shame that I wasted my time reading The Lord of the Flies

RJK1981
02-22-2013, 08:10 PM
Teri doesn't like much. ;)

I remember liking it when I read it in high school but thats a while back. I have wanted to reread it but haven't had the time.

I also remember liking Lord of the Flies when I read it as a required read in school. That and 1984 were both good. Didn't care much for the Shakespeare stuff I read during classes.

If it's not King Teri doesn't really care much for it typically, lol :p

Dan Hocker
02-22-2013, 08:16 PM
I wasn't a big fan of Lord of the Flies either. I also had to read "All Quiet on the Western Front", "Animal Farm", and "The Jungle". Animal Farm and The Jungle weren't bad, but All Quiet on the Western Front was horribly boring. So boring I don't even remember what it was about.

bsaenz24
02-22-2013, 08:59 PM
...All Quiet on the Western Front was horribly boring. So boring I don't even remember what it was about.

You should have taken the hint from the title "All Quiet"!!! ;)

Teriw
02-23-2013, 06:01 PM
Teri doesn't like much. ;)

I remember liking it when I read it in high school but thats a while back. I have wanted to reread it but haven't had the time.

I really don't and its not that I ONLY like King I just like to read what I know I am going to like. As for LOTF I was forced to read that in high school and I hated it but alot of that was due to teachers reading too much into it. Everyone knows the general meaning of that story even if you havent read it but the little things they picked into just annoyed the hell out of me. Sometimes a cigar is just a smoke and a story's just a story... and while this may not apply to the entire theme of the story because, yes, there was more to it but everything they picked through made me think just that. I HATE english teachers. They should let you take what you get from a story if thats nothing then its nothing if its more then good for you. Stick to teaching the important shit like Grammar and Spelling.

Teriw
02-23-2013, 06:03 PM
I wasn't a big fan of Lord of the Flies either. I also had to read "All Quiet on the Western Front", "Animal Farm", and "The Jungle". Animal Farm and The Jungle weren't bad, but All Quiet on the Western Front was horribly boring. So boring I don't even remember what it was about.

Oh and I hated animal farm in general PLUS for the same reasons as LOTF

srboone
02-23-2013, 06:22 PM
The Warehouse Follies by Dan Hocker
My Favorite Campsite Chortles by bookworm1
10 Things I Hate about International Shipping by peteOcha
The 26-volume Encyclopedia of Hates (plus the Broadsheet of Likes) by Teriw

:rolleyes:

Well, I'd be ashamed if I DIDN'T read them...;)

Martin
02-23-2013, 07:34 PM
I think that collection may be one of the book of the month selections!
The Warehouse Follies by Dan Hocker
My Favorite Campsite Chortles by bookworm1
10 Things I Hate about International Shipping by peteOcha
The 26-volume Encyclopedia of Hates (plus the Broadsheet of Likes) by Teriw

:rolleyes:

Well, I'd be ashamed if I DIDN'T read them...;)

Teriw
02-24-2013, 12:43 AM
The Warehouse Follies by Dan Hocker
My Favorite Campsite Chortles by bookworm1
10 Things I Hate about International Shipping by peteOcha
The 26-volume Encyclopedia of Hates (plus the Broadsheet of Likes) by Teriw

:rolleyes:

Well, I'd be ashamed if I DIDN'T read them...;)

Gave you rep for this one. lol. Wish there was a like button.

Tommy
02-24-2013, 02:40 PM
Of Stephen King books, I'm ashamed to admit I haven't read

The Dead Zone
Christine
Firestarter
The Original version of The Stand (is it still in print?)
Roadwork and The Running Man
Cell
half of the stories in Nightmares and Dreamscapes

the first three I saw the movie versions of a lot when I was a kid so I always put off reading them

other books I'm ashamed I haven't read
Don Quixote
The Faerie Queen
Purgatorio and Paradisio
Decameron
Ghost Story
and I've only read a handful of Lovecraft's stories but have really liked what I've read so far

bsaenz24
02-24-2013, 04:25 PM
Ghost Story is brilliant!

Tommy
02-24-2013, 04:52 PM
Ghost Story is brilliant!

I've seen the film version and I have a paperback of it to read, maybe this year will be the year!

Joe315
02-24-2013, 05:05 PM
The Original version of The Stand (is it still in print?)


It's not but you can find a used copy pretty easily. I found one for $1 at a Half Price Books.

Tommy
02-24-2013, 05:09 PM
It's not but you can find a used copy pretty easily. I found one for $1 at a Half Price Books.

Sort of what I guessed, will probably be what I read after I get all this other King material read, no one can accuse the man of being lazy when it comes to writing, that's for dang sure :rolleyes:

tastyfood28
02-25-2013, 12:25 AM
Brave New World by Aldous Huxley is one of my all time favorite books. Some interesting facts about the author are that he was ridiculed for being a socialist even in early 20th century England. A must read! If you have seen movies like The Island or have read 1984, Brave New World in my opinion set the stage for similar books about social classes and social assignment.

bsaenz24
02-25-2013, 01:06 AM
I've seen the film version and I have a paperback of it to read, maybe this year will be the year!

The movie was ok, I guess, but the book is outstanding!!

Tommy
02-26-2013, 01:00 PM
So that I may not live in shame any longer, I started Ghost Story yesterday, loving it so far

Neiaushie79
02-27-2013, 03:40 PM
So that I may not live in shame any longer, I started Ghost Story yesterday, loving it so far

You're not the only one, I just bought one on Ebay.

Tommy
02-27-2013, 03:52 PM
You're not the only one, I just bought one on Ebay.

cool, let's race to see who finishes first, I'm a slow reader so don't worry about my slight head-start :cool:
I hope CD is working on a 35th anniversary edition :D

bsaenz24
02-27-2013, 04:37 PM
So that I may not live in shame any longer, I started Ghost Story yesterday, loving it so far

Tommy, I commend you on losing this SHAMEFUL SHAME you have!!! Hope you enjoy the rest!!

Tommy
02-27-2013, 06:49 PM
lol, I can feel the shame melting away the more I read, I am going to have to read more Straub after this, only read short stories before this, GS is my first full length novel of his

TJCams
02-27-2013, 07:12 PM
I am ashamed to say that I have not yet read...... anything by Richard Laymon, and also Ghost Story. I read two of Straub's other books though. :)

Keep in mind, I was not much of a reader until the last couple years, where it has become a very big part of my life, aside from my wife and daughter, and hockey.

Tommy
02-27-2013, 07:36 PM
I am ashamed to say that I have not yet read...... anything by Richard Laymon

The Woods are Dark is really good, make sure to read the unedited edition

Martin
02-27-2013, 07:51 PM
I enjoyed The Woods are Dark but The Traveling Vampire Show is my favorite Laymon. Ghost Stroy is a great read but my favorite Straub is Lost Boy, Lost Girl.
The Woods are Dark is really good, make sure to read the unedited edition

Tommy
02-27-2013, 07:58 PM
I enjoyed The Woods are Dark but The Traveling Vampire Show is my favorite Laymon. Ghost Stroy is a great read but my favorite Straub is Lost Boy, Lost Girl.

Sweet, I was wondering which Straub to go to next, I have Laymon's The Island, need to read that one before I order any more, but the next one I order will be The Traveling Vampire Show Thanks!

TJCams
02-27-2013, 08:01 PM
Pork Pie Hat was a good quick read. I really enjoyed If You Could See Me Now as well.

Tommy
02-27-2013, 08:08 PM
Pork Pie Hat was a good quick read. I really enjoyed If You Could See Me Now as well.

I liked PPH too, I really loved the novella at the end of Shivers VI though, A Special Place: The Heart of a Dark Matter, that is very twisted :D

bsaenz24
02-27-2013, 08:23 PM
Lost Boy is technically the4th in a series. I believe after Koko, Mystery and The Throat. I have not read all of those yet, so I don't know if they "have" to be read in order.

Tommy
02-27-2013, 08:30 PM
The plot thickens, literally
I admit I am far behind on my Straub and I don't know if I should be ashamed or not but I have never read a single Koonz work, am I missing anything there?

srboone
02-27-2013, 08:38 PM
I don't think you're missing anything by not reading Koontz, but others will disagree. Nothing I've read of his has impressed me.

Tommy
02-27-2013, 08:44 PM
I don't think you're missing anything by not reading Koontz, but others will disagree. Nothing I've read of his has impressed me.

And strangely enough, Wikipedia says that Koontz has sold more books than Stephen King :confused:

srboone
02-27-2013, 08:51 PM
It doesn't mean he's better. I find Koontz easier to read, but less substantial than King. I can't get into Koontz.

But for a throwaway paperback that you can come home to after a hard day of work and that won't make you think too much, Koontz would naturally sell better than King. I had an uncle who loved Max Brand, Zane Gray, Louis Lamour westerns. He liked them because they didn't take any effort to read them. He wanted to relax, not think about what he was reading. I look at Koontz as the Max Brand of horror. ;)

Tommy
02-27-2013, 08:58 PM
it just surprised me that Koontz has sold more is all, my sister always said she couldn't read him either and she is the one who got me into King, wonder if it's a Elvis/Beatles situation where you like one or the other but can't like both equally?

Tommy
02-27-2013, 09:07 PM
It also says that Koontz has written 91 books compared to King's 70, 325 million sold for Koontz and 300 million for King, so individual Koontz books sell less than King's but Koontz has more of them

srboone
02-27-2013, 09:10 PM
When I was in high school, only two students read Stephen King religiously: myself and a girl in my class named Shannon. She also read Koontz. I once asked her which one she liked better and she answered: Danielle Steele. :eek:

Women. Sheesh! ;)

Neiaushie79
02-27-2013, 09:11 PM
I bowed out on Koontz after Odd Thomas, I just couldn't do it. I never understood the Elvis/Beatles comparison at all. Shouldn't it have been Beatles/Rolling Stones or Elvis/Jerry Lee Lewis? That would have made more sense. I'm working on my shame while I wait for Ghost Story to arrive. I made a last second decision and went to B&N and picked up a copy of A Clockwork Orange and even grabbed 20th Century Ghosts by Joe Hill. I think it's going to be a good weekend :o

Tommy
02-27-2013, 09:16 PM
When I was in high school, only two students read Stephen King religiously: myself and a girl in my class named Shannon. She also read Koontz. I once asked her which one she liked better and she answered: Danielle Stelle. :eek:

Women. Sheesh! ;)

Danielle Steel puts them both to shame with 120 books selling more than 500 million to 800 million copies, holy sh*t! Looks like Agatha Christie and Shakespeare are neck and neck with 2billion to 4 billion sold each

Neiaushie79
02-27-2013, 09:23 PM
Danielle Steele puts them both to shame with 120 books selling more than 500 million to 800 million copies, holy sh*t! Looks like Agatha Christie and Shakespeare are neck and neck with 2billion to 4 billion sold each

You sure are quick on the lookups! Only reason why Steele sells so much is because there are a lot of lonely, unsatisfied women out there. Eh, you can keep all of that "He plunged his throbbing manhood into her brimming chalice" mess. I read that line in on of my dad's GF's books and ended up laughing for 30 minutes straight. No thanks, lol

Tommy
02-27-2013, 09:26 PM
You sure are quick on the lookups! Only reason why Steele sells so much is because there are a lot of lonely, unsatisfied women out there. Eh, you can keep all of that "He plunged his throbbing manhood into her brimming chalice" mess. I read that line in on of my dad's GF's books and ended up laughing for 30 minutes straight. No thanks, lol

lmao, I may have to give her a try now after hearing that, :rolleyes:
here is the page I am looking upon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_fiction_authors

Martin
02-27-2013, 09:35 PM
I saw it on the internet so it must me true!

Tommy
02-27-2013, 09:39 PM
I saw it on the internet so it must me true!

Exactly! :rolleyes:

srboone
02-27-2013, 09:44 PM
My grandmother left me shitloads of Agatha Christie (her favorite author) HCs and pbs. SHe'd read them all multiple times and sometimes she was too lazy to look for a copy of an AG book she knew she had, so she'd just buy another one! I've got multiple pb copies of a lot of AG's books.

Dr. Suess is listed ahead of Stephen King! I love it!.

11947

TJCams
02-28-2013, 03:50 PM
I enjoy King, and Straub (from what I've read anyways), and I also enjoy Koontz a lot. I was lucky in that I was given a bunch of Koontz paperbacks, to go with the few I have purchased. He is different than King. He has some that are more of a sci-fi, and some that would be horror, but to me at least, he is more of a thriller writer? More possible real-world events - less supernatural, in some of the work I have read anyways.

Tommy - I would highly suggest you give Koontz a try. As far as recommendations - I loved Strangers, Voice of the Night was a quick read too, but also Whispers would be a good starting point.

Tommy
02-28-2013, 08:36 PM
Well I do have a copy of Dark Rivers of the Heart I got as a Christmas present many moons ago from my brother-in-law, ever read that one?

bsaenz24
02-28-2013, 08:41 PM
Dark Rivers was one of the last Koontz books I really liked before I stopped reading him years later. Great book.

Tommy
02-28-2013, 08:45 PM
Good to know, suppose it will be my first by him if I ever get to it, I mean the man has written 91 books I really should try at least one I guess

TJCams
03-01-2013, 07:42 PM
Tommy, I never read that one. In fact your post is the first time I remember hearing about it. Let me (us) if you do give Koontz a try, and tell us what you think.

Sabrina Morgan
03-28-2013, 11:00 AM
I saw this on someone's list. (Can't remember who.) Any way I found this and thought of this thread. I read A Brave New World and loved it, I thought I would share this,

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Neiaushie79
06-14-2013, 12:13 AM
I'm ashamed that I've never read Salem's Lot. I'll be remedying this problem tomorrow.