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Sock Monkey
02-21-2017, 02:47 PM
I had a feeling it was coming...

Subterranean Press just announced a new signed limited/lettered edition of Swan Song by Robert McCammon! I'm sure this is going to sell FAST. I wanted the lettered but just can't swing it right now.

A special shout out to Camelot Books. Twenty minutes after receiving the email from Sub Press, I got an email from Kim letting me know that Swan Song had been announced and if I wanted to reserve a matching number to Boy's Life that I had purchased through them. Really made the whole thing easy on my end!

RonClinton
02-21-2017, 04:41 PM
I had a feeling it was coming...

A special shout out to Camelot Books. Twenty minutes after receiving the email from Sub Press, I got an email from Kim letting me know that Swan Song had been announced and if I wanted to reserve a matching number to Boy's Life that I had purchased through them. Really made the whole thing easy on my end!

+1. Great folks, and I took advantage of the same offer.

I already have the Dark Harvest HC (an inscribed trade), but couldn't pass up this new version. I don't really have the shelf space for duplicates / alternate editions, but there are a few, very select books for which I''ll make an exception, and SWAN SONG is certainly one of them.

slayn666
02-21-2017, 09:57 PM
I was thinking about waiting, but then they (SubPress) followed up like three hours later saying it was over 80% sold out.

I am weak.

mhatchett
02-22-2017, 12:13 AM
Bam, Kim contacted me too and I jumped high and hard lol!!

TacomaDiver
02-22-2017, 04:58 AM
I saw the original message at about 5:30 this morning.

I lasted until exactly 12:05 before buying it.

Dave1442397
02-22-2017, 12:08 PM
I skipped it. I liked Boy's Life much more than Swan Song, so I'm sticking with my old paperback copy from the '80s.

slayn666
02-22-2017, 02:06 PM
Both editions are now sold out. It took less than a day.

Sock Monkey
02-23-2017, 02:40 AM
Both editions are now sold out. It took less than a day.

Yeah, it sold out FAST. To be honest, though, I'm not really surprised. It's a genre classic and I'm sure most collectors have been waiting for Subterranean to put this out since they've been running through McCammon's books. My only complaint is that I wish Subterranean had been consistent in the trim size between the McCammon books. Boy's Life and Swan Song are one trim size, The Border is another, and the majority of the other McCammon books are a third size. I'm sure that wasn't as much demand for Bethany's Sin as there is for Swan Song, but I think that oversized slipcased books across the line would have been really nice on the shelf.

slayn666
02-24-2017, 02:14 PM
DRP managed to get 15 copies, in case anyone is having second thoughts about not jumping in. They'll likely go fast, too.

Theli
02-24-2017, 03:32 PM
Not a big deal, but the mark-up is a bit of a turn off, even if it is only $10.

slayn666
02-24-2017, 03:37 PM
I seem to recall Camelot had some insane markup on The Border even before it had sold out through SubPress.

bsaenz24
02-24-2017, 03:39 PM
Not a big deal, but the mark-up is a bit of a turn off, even if it is only $10.

I agree, but if I still needed one, I would not pass it up over the $10.

Theli
02-24-2017, 04:44 PM
I seem to recall Camelot had some insane markup on The Border even before it had sold out through SubPress.

I've seen mark-ups from Camelot, but not for pre-orders. Still I see your point.

mhatchett
02-24-2017, 07:16 PM
I've never really noticed any big markup, but the profit margin in the book business is pretty thin, as we all know, and Camelot gives such great service, I wouldn't begrudge them making a few bucks. Plus, I've picked up some great deals from them in the past. I figure it all balances out in the wash.

Theli
02-24-2017, 07:27 PM
I've never really noticed any big markup, but the profit margin in the book business is pretty thin, as we all know, and Camelot gives such great service, I wouldn't begrudge them making a few bucks. Plus, I've picked up some great deals from them in the past. I figure it all balances out in the wash.

Oh I agree. Camelot is great. The fact that they don't charge on pre-orders is amazing in and of itself. If they mark up books later as the secondary market price is increasing I couldn't care less.

The reason I pointed out DR is because it's literally a day after the announcement.

slayn666
02-24-2017, 07:52 PM
I like Camelot, I buy a lot of books from them. The fact remains that they marked up The Border by something like $50 before it had even sold out through SubPress, let alone been released and had time for secondary market pricing to come into play. You'll notice they still haven't sold out of their copies yet (of any edition).

And in Camelot's defense, this is the only time I've seen them do that. They've got some really dumb pricing going on with some older limited editions, but they're usually great about not gouging with preorders even when something is selling out super-fast. I guess they just had a brain fart with that one.

It's also the only time I've seen DRP do it, for what it's worth.

Theli
02-24-2017, 08:32 PM
Yeah I think you're right. Though some of DRP pricing is ridiculous on older books they get in stock from time to time. They're not a bad company either. Though I've lost a bit of interest with them since the crowdfunding phase began.

slayn666
02-24-2017, 08:51 PM
Yeah, they've really gone whole-hog on the crowdfunding. I'm not sure if it's still the case, but for a while (at least), part of their submission guidelines stated that, unless you were going to bring a huge audience (think Clive Barker or Ramsey Campbell), you had to be willing to have your work go through a crowdfunding campaign.

The most ridiculous pricing I've seen, though, is what Camelot is asking for Scott Thomas's Cobwebs and Whispers: $800. That's 20x what the book usually goes for on eBay, and while it's rare, one or two copies still come up for sale each year.

jeffingoff
03-10-2017, 03:51 PM
For those who missed out, PS Publishing is selling copies of the Limited Edition.

jeffingoff
03-10-2017, 05:52 PM
For those who missed out, PS Publishing is selling copies of the Limited Edition.

Aaaaaaand it's gone.

jeffingoff
09-22-2017, 05:29 PM
Got my shipping notice today!!!

Martin
10-05-2017, 07:39 PM
Dark Regions Press has four copies availability if anyone is interested. Do not expect them to last long:

https://darkregions.com/products/swan-song-by-robert-mccammon-signed-and-numbered-slipcased-hardcover-preorder

slayn666
10-05-2017, 09:34 PM
That's a hell of of a markup...

Martin
10-05-2017, 10:21 PM
That's a hell of of a markup...

Yes, DRP appears to jack up the price when they can get it.

RonClinton
10-06-2017, 04:43 PM
That's a hell of of a markup...

Yeah, I didn't think they'd sell any at that price...so imagine my surprise when I check this morning and all four copies are sold out. Glad I got mine at cover price. I don't really have a problem with them jacking up the price, though admittedly I wouldn't pay 3x the cover price...it's not as though they're a bookseller per se (e.g. Camelot Books, et al), so I tend to relax my expectations of such things when they're not.

Martin
10-06-2017, 05:11 PM
Yeah, I didn't think they'd sell any at that price...so imagine my surprise when I check this morning and all four copies are sold out. Glad I got mine at cover price. I don't really have a problem with them jacking up the price, though admittedly I wouldn't pay 3x the cover price...it's not as though they're a bookseller per se (e.g. Camelot Books, et al), so I tend to relax my expectations of such things when they're not.

They started with five available. I have no issue with a retailer marking the item. I can choose to buy or not, they sold there copies in 24 hours so clearly the price was appropriate. Camelot has marked things up as well but I have not seen it to that extreme.

jeffingoff
10-06-2017, 05:41 PM
They started with five available. I have no issue with a retailer marking the item. I can choose to buy or not, they sold there copies in 24 hours so clearly the price was appropriate. Camelot has marked things up as well but I have not seen it to that extreme.

I think the price was dictated by the going rate on eBay. $300-$350 for Limited. $800 and up for Lettered. That's what I've been seeing. I'm kicking myself for not buying a copy to sell.

Sock Monkey
10-08-2017, 12:26 AM
They sold all five... I don't know if I would have gone that high for the limited considering that the lettered was offered at $400 from Subterranean. The question is how well will these editions retain their value. There's heat right now as it has just been published but I'm curious where prices will settle down at. I can't wait to get my copy. Camelot just shipped it last week! :)

jeffingoff
10-08-2017, 02:17 AM
They sold all five... I don't know if I would have gone that high for the limited considering that the lettered was offered at $400 from Subterranean. The question is how well will these editions retain their value. There's heat right now as it has just been published but I'm curious where prices will settle down at. I can't wait to get my copy. Camelot just shipped it last week! :)

IT IS A GORGEOUS BOOK! But yeah, I wonder where the price will level off at. I think what we're seeing is the FOMO price. Who knows how long people will hunt down copies. I know mine will stay right where it's at until I'm no longer around.

bsaenz24
10-08-2017, 03:24 AM
Had to google FOMO. My shame knows no bounds.

bookworm 1
10-08-2017, 02:06 PM
Had to google FOMO. My shame knows no bounds.

At least you googled it. I have no clue what it means either and am too lazy to Google it.:o

jeffingoff
10-08-2017, 04:13 PM
Had to google FOMO. My shame knows no bounds.

No, I should be ashamed that I used a dumbass abbreviation like I'm 12. I wish I were 12. Anyway, FOMO is the Fear Of Missing Out, for those who have better things to do than waste Google's time.

Sock Monkey
10-08-2017, 04:40 PM
IT IS A GORGEOUS BOOK! But yeah, I wonder where the price will level off at. I think what we're seeing is the FOMO price. Who knows how long people will hunt down copies. I know mine will stay right where it's at until I'm no longer around.

I'm with you: I won't be selling this book. One of my all-time favorites!

RonClinton
10-08-2017, 05:18 PM
I can't wait to get my copy. Camelot just shipped it last week! :)

Same for me...on both points! :)

mhatchett
10-10-2017, 08:19 PM
I was just on ebay and stumbled across this. Thank goodness I pre-ordered wow!! I also have the Dark Harvest Edition, so, I'm set LOL!!