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Dan Hocker
01-25-2017, 03:17 PM
Hi guys.

I've rarely had to do this before, but I've locked and archived both KWP threads. Things where honestly getting out of hand. I've started this thread and directed Zack here for future posts. Please keep it civil and refrain from name calling and anything of the like. I will be deleting posts that aren't civil. Also if anyone partakes in DOXING anyone they will instantly receive a ban. DOXING is no joke and it's seriously not an OK thing to do, EVER. Again keep it civil, I really don't want to have to remove this thread too.

KING'SWAYPRESS
01-25-2017, 03:32 PM
Thank you Dan. Since many people saw the old thread and the posts by someone pretending to be a lifetime subscriber (and yes, I know who he is and no he is not now, nor was he ever a KWP customer or subscriber), I will address some of the criticisms here, as there have been REAL concerns with KWP that are buried and obscured when one has to answer false charges. I will address these later and hopefully help clear some things up.

Zach Powell

St. Troy
01-25-2017, 06:09 PM
Does King's Way Press have a website (so I can see their work etc.)?

Martin
01-25-2017, 06:13 PM
Does King's Way Press have a website (so I can see their work etc.)?

http://kwp-books.com/

Martin
01-25-2017, 06:15 PM
Thank you Dan. Since many people saw the old thread and the posts by someone pretending to be a lifetime subscriber (and yes, I know who he is and no he is not now, nor was he ever a KWP customer or subscriber), I will address some of the criticisms here, as there have been REAL concerns with KWP that are buried and obscured when one has to answer false charges. I will address these later and hopefully help clear some things up.

Zach Powell

Hi Zach. It will be good to have your input. Do you have an estimate when the Limited editions of Ghosts of Benevolence will be released?

Theli
01-25-2017, 06:26 PM
I have some pretty big reservations regarding KWP. There's quite a bit of controversy surrounding the company and it's current owner. However I do hope that these issues get resolved, as there is some prospective books that interest me, and I do know that they can make a good book. I have one Full Moon Press book, Carmilla, and it is really top notch. So Zach, the ball is in your court to uphold the quality of these books and have open and honest communication with customers new and old. I look forward reading what you have to say.

RonClinton
01-25-2017, 10:22 PM
Zach, your two lengthy PMs to me here @ the forum would be better served to post in this thread, so that other people who share my skepticism can read your responses to my earlier comments. I don't pretend to know the truth, nor do I have any money at risk whether or not your company succeeds; I have no horse in this race. I am simply someone who could have been a customer, but has chosen not to be due to a number of issues w/ your company and its history that make me uneasy, most of which have been revisited here and elsewhere. If you wish to assure other prospective customers that, in fact, all is well with KWP, I think you'd be better served doing so publicly than privately. Food for thought.

KING'SWAYPRESS
01-25-2017, 11:03 PM
Zach, your two lengthy PMs to me here @ the forum would be better served to post in this thread, so that other people who share my skepticism can read your responses to my earlier comments. I don't pretend to know the truth, nor do I have any money at risk whether or not your company succeeds; I have no horse in this race. I am simply someone who could have been a customer, but has chosen not to be due to a number of issues w/ your company and its history that make me uneasy, most of which have been revisited here and elsewhere. If you wish to assure other prospective customers that, in fact, all is well with KWP, I think you'd be better served doing so publicly than privately. Food for thought.

Working on it. I actually did type a rather lengthy response to the entire thread (took over 2 hrs). That was lost when the thread was nuked. It was in "moderator hold status" at the time. The only reason I PM'ed you was that at the time, the responses weren't going through and some of the misconceptions in your post concerned me.

KING'SWAYPRESS
01-25-2017, 11:03 PM
Hi Zach. It will be good to have your input. Do you have an estimate when the Limited editions of Ghosts of Benevolence will be released?

Already out and shipped. If you have a sub or preorder, you'll be seeing it this week or next.

KING'SWAYPRESS
01-25-2017, 11:13 PM
I have some pretty big reservations regarding KWP. There's quite a bit of controversy surrounding the company and it's current owner. However I do hope that these issues get resolved, as there is some prospective books that interest me, and I do know that they can make a good book. I have one Full Moon Press book, Carmilla, and it is really top notch. So Zach, the ball is in your court to uphold the quality of these books and have open and honest communication with customers new and old. I look forward reading what you have to say.

Yes, there was quite a bit of controversy. A little was legit, much was made up. A lot of it false and generated by this same "Mr. Smith" who posted the rant here. He's authored many such threads, in fact about 1-2 a year all over the web. All containing falsehoods and innuendo. I am addressing all in a much longer post. I won't go into much detail about this person, but his name's not Smith, he's never been a customer, he's not a subscriber and 99% of his post was false.

I appreciate that you like Carmilla. Can't take credit for it as it was an FMP title. I can tell you that if you think Carmilla was nice, you'll love our other titles. We basically took the production values Paul put into Carmilla and put them on steroids. Added in gilded page edges, more art, etc.

PM me and I'll send you a free "sample". Till then, I'm working on the rest of the response.

Martin
01-26-2017, 03:44 AM
Already out and shipped. If you have a sub or preorder, you'll be seeing it this week or next.

I ordered through Cemetery Dance so it will go through them but I am glad to hear it is coming soon. Thanks.

Brian James Freeman
01-26-2017, 12:57 PM
I ordered through Cemetery Dance so it will go through them but I am glad to hear it is coming soon. Thanks.

I can't wait to see it, too! Should be a beautiful book!

Brian

St. Troy
01-26-2017, 01:33 PM
http://kwp-books.com/

Thanks.

The editions of Frankenstein and Dracula in particular look very nice, although I am curious as to the dimensions of those books (not that I need to know, as they are sold out and I wouldn't have room in the budget even if they weren't).

KING'SWAYPRESS
01-26-2017, 06:07 PM
Okay. Time to clear some things up. I'm gonna do this once (already posted a response to most of this but it was nuked with the original threads). After this, some of these things won't ever be addressed by me again (like the Zach is Paul, Paul is Zach theory) because in the end, something a very smart publisher told me once about why he doesn't post on threads a lot holds true: People will believe what they want. Those dead set against you will likely remain so, those for you will remain so, and the undecided will largely stay that way. You can drive yourself crazy with things taken out of context, misquoted things, and explaining the same thing over and over again. Simple answers can be seen as rude, condescending, or evasive when not intended that way. So here goes.

Before we begin, those who are truly interested in remaining on top of KWP news should sign up for the newsletters and/or like us on Facebook (I'm keeping FB updated regularly now). Much of this has been addressed directly to our collectors and customers through those venues.

Here we go.

#1. I am not Paul Little. My name is Zach Powell. I am a long time friend of Paul Little. In fact when he started FMP we worked together at Barnes & Noble. I did most of the editing on his first title and my signature appears in the book. I also wrote a piece in the Dracula edition that FMP was set to release. My signature appears in those books as well and those signature pages were signed some 2-3 years before the press failed, as evidence by the print run being listed at 350 rather than the true 150 edition print run. Once again, to believe that we are the same person, you'd have to believe that in starting FMP, Paul planned on failing and that he made up an alt personality just for that purpose...nearly 3 years in advance. "Mr. Smith" who posted this conspiracy theory has been pushing this since KWP started. He also harangued and harassed Paul for years before he closed. He's not now, nor was he ever as customer of KWP. He also got so much wrong in his diatribe against KWP that it would be funny, if it wasn't so serious. I have no qualms at all about comments and opinions such as "KWP sucks" or "I didn't get my emails answered", "Takes to long to get books out", etc. That's all well and good. Slander and lies are not welcome.

2. Despite "Mr. Smith's" false claim that I was "forced" to honor FMP lifetime subs, nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, most of the lifetime sub holders were contacted by Paul ahead of time and told that they had the option to stay on for KWP. In fact, it was a prerequisite of Paul and an agreement that we made before KWP was ever formed that he would help me get some of the titles he'd already had in progress (like Frankenstein, Killer's Diary, Dracula, and The Skull Ring) out by helping with author contacts, artist agreements, etc. In return for getting a print ready book (KD) and the artwork/files, etc and the benefit of the prepaid author advances and prepaid art, I agreed to honor the lifetime subs and preorders. This was beneficial to all involved: myself, the customers, and Paul himself as it freed him to seek treatment for his illness while not having the burden of all of this hanging over him. As Captain Marvel said on his old thread, I willingly and cheerfully honored his old account with FMP. No questions asked and no one had to hold anyone's feet to the fire to make this happen.

3. When I started KWP, I wanted to build on the vision that Paul had for FMP. Despite his health problems and the bad business decisions that combined to kill the press, no one can dispute that he had a love for fine books and that The Wildman and Carmilla were some very, very nice offerings. I took what he started, lowered the print runs and added much more in the way of production values and "curb appeal" to the books. The end results are books I am extremely proud of. I can proudly say that there really no one offering the same type of books, with the same production values. Our limited edition books are comparable or surpass most press's lettered editions.

4. When I started KWP, I could never have envisioned some of the difficulties I encountered along the way, but I will say this: I've learned with each one. I also will point out that in my first communication to customers and lifetime subscribers I clearly stated that I wouldn't be holding to any specific timelines or artificial publishing dates. I guaranteed everyone who was a member that they'd get their books, even if it was only one a year or so. Unfortunately, and this is all my fault, I didn't hold to that policy after the success of the first couple of books. I now wish I had. Another policy that I wish I had kept in place was the policy of zero preorders. But alas, as the saying goes, sometime you're damned if you do and equally damned if you don't. I thought it was a good thing. I kept KWP plans under wraps from all but many of the former lifetime subscribers from FMP. I worked with Cemetery Dance to announce Killer's Diary. The book sold out in a day or so. That's when I found out about the flaw in the "no preorders" plan. People started sending me angry emails about how they would have liked to have ordered the book, but it sold out before they could order on. In retrospect, I should have held back a few copies for this purpose. Again, I made some mistakes. Then the conspiracy theorists, led by "Mr. Smith" went to work. Not only did the "Paul is Zach, Zach is Paul" conspiracy begin then, but I was also castigated for the "odd" circumstances of how KWP burst on the scene with no prior mention to the general public! But, guess what? From where I was standing, this is what I saw happening had I announced the press in a traditional way: Had I announced KWP before Killer's Diary was released, I would have been mired in the same things. "Can we trust this guy?", "Don't buy anything from him!" and all the rest for the 6-8 weeks before the book arrived. I thought it best to say, "Here I am and here is my first book!" instead. Even then, there were some on some message boards saying "Don't buy anything until you see the product!", even when the product was already out. So, yes, I made some mistakes, but you just can't please everyone. I seemed to have avoided one pitfall to trade it for another. I do have to say that I find the "Not a single Zach Powell lives in Georgia!" to be more than a little humorous. I happen to personally know another Zach Powell...in Georgia. A quick google search for "Zach Powell Georgia"" nets 35 listings.

Now here's two of my biggest mistakes: #1. Putting out publication timelines. and #2. Allowing preorders. Let me explain: My vision for KWP was to put out the best. Period. No rushing. No "I gotta get this out by February 5th because I promised I would!", no artificial timelines. Why? Because crap happens. A perfect example of this is Poker Night by Ray Garton. The book was 90% done when we announced it. Ray gave me an estimate of when the book would be done. Factoring in the time to edit/proof, I gave my customers an expected window of when it would be done. Guess what? Life happened. Ray got cancer. Then on top of that, the treatments caused him to become ill. He's been through hell. I can't really push a guy who's sick to get the book out. With that said, I'm looking forward to the book possibly more than you all. Like I said, like intervenes. Take Solomon's Seal and Silver from Steven Savile. Somehow, the signature pages keep ending up back in his hands. This has gone on for some time now. Needless to say, sending signature pages to Sweden and back is expensive, not to mention time consuming. Three tries later and the signature pages are back in his hands...again. In fact, we just discussed around Christmas waiting until the new year to try again. We didn't want the package to get lost in the shuffle again with the Christmas rush and the after Christmas returns rush. This can all be verified by Steve. I've been sitting on $20k in already printed books that are just waiting for these signature pages to be complete. And, while I've still been at fault for some issues, having $20k in finished books just sitting here took away $20k that I could have spent on other titles and getting them out. Again life happens.
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KING'SWAYPRESS
01-26-2017, 06:08 PM
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Additionally, the IRS also happened. I used to be like many of you. I was vocal in my political beliefs on FB (while always separating work/politics). This seems to have made a target of me with the IRS. In late 2013 (I think or early 2014), I got a notice that I was being audited on my taxes. It seems they tried to include my personal items sold on eBay and elsewhere as a way to shake me down for tens of thousands of dollars. In 2012 (the last of three years worth of audits), I had sold a lot of my personal collection off to make way for moving. I also sold some vehicles etc. These items weren't taxable as they were all sold at losses and they were personal, not business items. Yet, I had to spend the better part of a year tracking down and listing each of the following: ebay listing fees, paypal fees, final value fees, shipping costs, initial purchase price, etc on every single item sold in 3 years on eBay. Additionally, they were adding items my wife had sold that were personal items and her business together too. Basically, I spent every moment of every day that I wasn't at my day job on giving the IRS what they demanded. They wouldn't accept the generic eBay and paypal reports, they wanted line-by-line accounting for every item sold. Anyway, this took all of my efforts for the better part of a year. Bottom line at the end of it? IRS basically says, "My bad. You don't owe us anything..." I offer this NOT as an excuse, but as a real reason for why there was basically nothing for the space of a year from KWP. This was one of the most frustrating periods of my life and it was all for nought. I've since shut my private facebook account down, because really, who needs that kind of hassle?

Now, I'm sure most of you are well aware that small press publishers rarely make enough on their presses to have that be their only form of work. In addition to working on the press, I also work a job that commands 40-50hrs on a regular work week, quite a lot more on others. Sometimes it carries me places far from home. I made a fateful decision to hire someone I knew and thought I could trust to help with the press. Brought him on and he seemed to be doing well. I got called out of the country for the better part of a year. I brought Chris Mason on, introduced him to KWP collectors and authors and thought I'd made a great decision. During that time I was gone (and working 70hrs a week), it seems that Chris was doing little. I had turned over all direction of the press (Again, I STUPID mistake on my part as I should have at least monitored the in-box). I had weekly phone and messages with Chris, always getting the "things are going well" report. Supposedly the books were progressing, the orders were being filled and all was just fine. It wasn't until I returned home that I discovered the truth. Chris had done nothing. No work on the books, no communication with the customers or authors and no paying of the bills. I was literally ripped off in the worst possible ways. Worse yet, the computers I'd left in his care were riddled with porn and malware and had to be scrapped. Again, the blame for this decision fell upon me. In hindsight, I should have just notified the lifetime sub holders, my authors, and my customers that I would be taking a 6-12 month hiatus because of the work situation. The fallout couldn't have been worse than what it was.

Also, in trying out a new printer I was rooked. I have a sample of each book delivered to me BEFORE I will accept them to be printed. This printer delivered some very nice sample books. I gave them permission to run the books. About 6 weeks later, I received notice that the books were finished. I paid the remaining balance. No books arrived. Called, waited, no answer. No books. The company took my money and disappeared. Learned a valuable lesson about getting some "trade references" in advance the hard way.

So yes, a lot of life has happened along the way. But, still, I take full responsibility. None of this is meant as an excuse, just meant to add context.


5. I remember seeing quotes from Rick Hautala wherein he said, "If you want to make a small fortune in the small press, you need to start with a large fortune first."--No truer words have ever been spoken. Each of my titles costs me $15-$20 to produce when it's all said and done. I use only the best materials, the books are printed and bound here in the USA, and I don't cut corners. When I set KWP up, I knew it was going to cost me a lot. I never expected to see a profit for the first 10 years or so. That's just a fact. I find it odd that "Mr. Smith" and some others would persist in calling me a crook. I thought the purpose of being a crook was to profit? No, I haven't made a dime on KWP and including the money that was lost due to Chris and other pitfalls (like the printer who closed after taking $10k+ of my money). I've thrown quite a lot of cash at KWP and will continue to do so. KWP will NEVER close shop because I will continue to deliver books as promised in the beginning. Upon starting KWP, I set aside a certain portion of my yearly income dedicated to KWP. This money comes directly from my account into a reserve account. Within every 18-24 months, this money has built into enough to pay the print run for at least one hardcover title. That's why I said, KWP will NEVER go out of business. I won't happen. I made a promise to my lifetime subscribers and I made a promise to a very old friend that I will honor until my last breath is taken.

6. Speaking of last breaths, few know this (I think I shared this with a few collectors, not many) and I did not intend to disclose this here, but I will. I also suffered an unexpected heart attack last year. Scary stuff. Still ticking, taking better care of myself and expected to be fine.

7. Many reading this won't know what truly goes into a KWP book. We do it right and we do it well. Does it take more time sometimes for it to happen? Absolutely. But ask anyone who's ever held one of our books and you'll see what I mean. It's not a mantra. It's not propaganda. It's a deep commitment to books and feeling like a limited edition should be a limited edition. It's this commitment that has also frustrated my collectors as well as myself at times. Many of you reading this will be surprised to hear (although I've shared this with my collectors over our newsletters more than once), that I have had some titles reprinted as many as three times after rejecting them. We had one case where The Ghosts of Benevolence and another title looked fabulous. Then upon further inspection, some of the pages were bound upside down and backward. I sent the shipment back. This means we had to start from scratch on the whole process all three times. The second go around the gilding on the page edges looked odd. It looked more like someone took a silver sharpie and colored the page edges. REJECTED. The next time, everything looked good...until I looked deeper into the book...some of the pages bled off of the side. It's like the pages got turned a little off center in the printing process. The fourth time was a charm! Finally the books passed muster and were accepted. Every time I reject a book, it adds about 3-5 months to the process because we have to start from scratch. It's a process. It's a real bitch sometimes. It's also vital that if the book bears my logo that it be right. I just rejected the books on another title just last week. Took a box off the truck. Inspected it. Looked great on the outside. Looked good on the inside. Something about it just seemed off. Then it hit me. I pulled the headband back and the binding was glued, not sewn. We only use sewn bindings. Think Cemetery Dance. The sewn bindings just feel different. Sturdier. I compared another book, same thing. Sent the whole shipment back, return to sender. Not as ordered. Sorry won't fly. Not with me. Would it have been great to get another title out to assuage the anxious collector? Sure. But then it wouldn't be a KWP book, now would it? I know it's frustrating. I do. I get it. I also know that at least this aspect will NOT change. Never. Not at all.
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KING'SWAYPRESS
01-26-2017, 06:09 PM
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8. Some have criticized the new paperback series. Some have asked why? Well, here it is in a nutshell: #1. Many people have contacted me over the years and have told me they'd love to read our books, but don't want to pay $40, $85, or $350 to do so. The paperback line serves the casual reader as well as the frugal collector who loves a great read, but doesn't have the budget for expensive hardcovers. Who doesn't love a book that's signed AND costs less than $20? #2. Additionally, it just makes sense. All businesses tweak their business models as the economy changes and shifts. It makes perfect sense for KWP to capture some of the readers who won't spend as much on their books. Some of these readers might never experience some of these authors otherwise. So, not only does it help grow KWP, it helps potentially grow the fan base of the authors, and possibly brings new readers into the genre as well. #3. It shows that KWP is not going anywhere. We are on track to release 25 paperbacks this year alone. That's in addition to our hardcovers we are working on. As our backlist gets deeper, confidence that KWP is forever should grow. We are also giving each of these paperbacks to our lifetime subscribers for free. That should make nothing but happiness all the way around.

9. So where is KWP going from here? Well, I'll tell you. Some may applaud these steps, some may question these steps, some my hate these steps, but ultimately I will do what it is in the best interests of my collectors and my lifetime subscribers and the health of KWP in general. Here are things I am in the process of implementing or have already implemented.

A. No more preorders. No way. No how. Back to the original business model. I will hold back a handful of copies for the latecomers, but I will no longer mention, announce, or accept money for a book until it is within 1-2 weeks of being delivered. I've already put this back in place. I have several hardcover projects in stages of production that do NOT appear on the site and have not and will not be mentioned until the printer has assured me that the books are on the way. Period.

B. No more advance production announcements or "publication dates" on the hardcovers. Not going to do it. You'll get your books, the same as always. If you're a lifetime collector, I'll be glad to privately answer any questions. As soon as the books we have pre-announced are delivered, I will not be announcing the new hardcovers until they are almost ready to deliver. This will ensure that you don't get hopes up and disappointed if I have to reject a title. You will get your books. Should I have to reject a title that's been printed, I'll keep communication open with you and will advise you of such. I haven't left you behind yet, nor do I intend to. In the meantime, as you wait for more KWP goodness to arrive in hardcover format, you'll have plenty of KWP paperbacks to keep you company delivered to your door for free. Patience has always paid off for the KWP collector and it always will. Books like the ones we produce don't come fast and they don't come easy, but when they do come, I've yet to have a customer be disappointed in them.

C. Better communication. This is a biggie. I've taken several steps to change this for the better. One is that I've changed email servers because too many messages to and from customers were ending up in the ether somewhere. Some communication issues have been my fault and I accept that. Even though I work a lot of hrs at my regular job, I'll be checking my emails daily. I'll respond within 24hrs. As stated before, any additional delays caused by things like rejections of shipments will be communicated clearly and early.

This is the "nutshell" of changes I've made or am making. Not the whole picture at all. I am always working on KWP, even if it looks like I'm not.

I'm sorry for my faults, I apologize for frustrations.

I'm moving KWP forward and we are gaining ground. By the end of next week, my subscribers should be receiving a box of books, including the latest hardcover. Any of you with questions feel free to email me: publisher@kwp-books.com

As I said before, I'm sure there are some who'll critique this word for word or otherwise try to pick things apart. That's expected. But it is what it is. It's an honest statement on the state of KWP and an accepting of my own failures as well as a plan to correct the issues.

Anyone wanting more information can always contact me through the email address above.

Sincerely,
Zach Powell
King's Way Press

KING'SWAYPRESS
01-26-2017, 06:11 PM
Thanks.

The editions of Frankenstein and Dracula in particular look very nice, although I am curious as to the dimensions of those books (not that I need to know, as they are sold out and I wouldn't have room in the budget even if they weren't).

Thanks for the kind words. I think I may still have one of the Frankenstein signed trade editions and signed regal editions left. If interested, you can PM me and I'll arranged to send you an invoice for it. I can work you a "Welcome to KWP discount".

Z.

Theli
01-26-2017, 06:55 PM
Very thorough rundown on the happenings of KWP. Sorry to hear of some of the troubles you've experienced over the last year or so. I guess it can be easy for some of us to forget that in the small press publishing business it's more of a personal affair, and not the same as a big business and personal setbacks can affect a small company tremendously.

bugen
01-26-2017, 07:40 PM
Thanks for posting, Zach.

I was one of the dubious, sitting on the sideline with raised eyebrows over the hullabaloo. But a post like this helps a lot, and I'm much more inclined to give your press a shot based on your candor. Sometimes the undecided don't stay that way.

Good luck in the future.

Martin
01-27-2017, 04:26 AM
I will give my view on this.

First of all I want to thank you, Zach for being willing to come onto this forum and communicating with us.

You will always have critics of your business. On the internet you will find many of those critics are especially vitriolic as they do not have to answer to their behavior. Some of those critics will have unknown personal reasons for their attacks. Some are frustrated with some aspects of your business, paperback line, long delays, poor communication etc. For who dislike your business decisions (paperback line etc.) I would recommend discounting those. It is your business and you must do what is right for your business. For those upset about long delays, be honest with them and do what you can to make it right. I am a very patient person when it comes to books I have purchased. I have waited, and continue to wait a long time for some books. Cemetery Dance is a good example of how to handle these. With books that have been delayed a long time, they communicate to us when they have information to communicate, being careful not to establish new new expectations in the process. They learned this by making mistakes in the past. When they do not have an update to share they don't. One thing they always do is respond quickly to questions. I cannot tell you how many times Mindy has responded to me with something like 'We have no update, it is being worked on but if you are tired of waiting I can issue a refund'. I have never taken the refund, I wait and I have some nice books on my shelves for that patience. I will accept delays. I will not accept being ignored by the company I have trusted with an advance for something. I respect your decision to stop pre-orders. But while you have pre-orders out there you owe those people who have invested in you a prompt response to their questions or concerns. If you choose to have a facebook page you owe it to those trying to communicate with you through it to not ignore them because of the clutter it generates. You had an email server issue but you also had a hone and facebook and people were not able to get a response for too long from any of those. You have said you own those mistakes and have taken actions to correct them. I respect and appreciate that. I hope we are not having this conversation again in the future. I hope we are talking about how nice the books your are putting out are. You have people who want to buy your books and add them to our collection. Going forward show us that you want our business and we will be happy to provide it.

Just my opinion.

Thanks again for communicating with us, that is all we were looking for.

mhatchett
01-27-2017, 12:30 PM
Pass. I tried. If I see something interesting, I'll pick it up through Camelot or on the secondary market. I do own the KW edition of Dracula and it's great, but a reputation lost, is a hard thing to regain. Best of luck in that very worthy effort.

fanatic
02-24-2017, 06:46 PM
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I'm moving KWP forward and we are gaining ground. By the end of next week, my subscribers should be receiving a box of books, including the latest hardcover. Any of you with questions feel free to email me: publisher@kwp-books.com

As I said before, I'm sure there are some who'll critique this word for word or otherwise try to pick things apart. That's expected. But it is what it is. It's an honest statement on the state of KWP and an accepting of my own failures as well as a plan to correct the issues.

Anyone wanting more information can always contact me through the email address above.

Sincerely,
Zach Powell
King's Way Press

Anyone get a box of books yet? I didn't and also didn't receive a reply to my e-mail to him asking about the books.

KING'SWAYPRESS
02-27-2017, 01:29 AM
Anyone get a box of books yet? I didn't and also didn't receive a reply to my e-mail to him asking about the books.

Hi, fanatic.

I'm assuming you're the person who I just replied to earlier tonight after finding messages from a couple of people in my junk folder.

I held shipping on the last few members when I found out that the latest two titles would be in to me last week. This was so that we saved a few bucks and time on shipping. You should see the box of books which will include the two titles this coming week. I sent out a group email about 10 days ago to the few people who were affected by the delay. Sometimes our emails end up in spam folders, so you might check there for it.

We're on track to complete 2 books per month in 2017, and we'll likely be shipping these out every other month from here on out.

There's a newsletter coming out tomorrow detailing the shipping plan and much more for 2017.

Thank you for your patience!

Z.

Jim Slim Mclain
02-27-2017, 05:14 PM
I thought I had a login for this site but Iíll be damned if I can find it. Anyway.

I received a box from Zach a couple of weeks ago. With one hard cover and a slew of paperbacks.
Iím thrilled Zach has included paper backs into our Hardcover Life Time Subs.

I know folks have had their issues with FMP \ KWP, but I have a tendency to take people at their word. When Paul said he was shutting down FMP for health reasons I was bummed for sure but I know life time subs are a gamble and I wished him the best. Just like when Shane closed Delirium for Dark Fuse because it wasnít viable for him I was really bummed but I understood his reasons and I wish him the best as well. At lease I broke even with Delirium. Not much more, but still.

(In full disclosure I got my FMP Regal HC life time sub from an EBay auction paying less than original price.)

When Zach announced KWP and he was honoring my sub from FMP I was elated. And although itís been slow going, I have hope for my sub, hope for KWP.

Itís nice getting some books every now and then when I thought all was lost long ago.

Currently the only thing Iím waiting on that is in stock or soon to be is
Rooting of Evil and the two new Watters books.

I look forward to the paper backs and in time more hard covers.

I know Iím not around much anymore as time and money go to my raising of a couple of grand kids, but to my old friends and acquaintances, I wish you all well.

Slim.

fanatic
02-27-2017, 07:35 PM
Hi, fanatic.

I'm assuming you're the person who I just replied to earlier tonight after finding messages from a couple of people in my junk folder.

I held shipping on the last few members when I found out that the latest two titles would be in to me last week. This was so that we saved a few bucks and time on shipping. You should see the box of books which will include the two titles this coming week. I sent out a group email about 10 days ago to the few people who were affected by the delay. Sometimes our emails end up in spam folders, so you might check there for it.

We're on track to complete 2 books per month in 2017, and we'll likely be shipping these out every other month from here on out.

There's a newsletter coming out tomorrow detailing the shipping plan and much more for 2017.

Thank you for your patience!

Z.



Hi Zack

Yes that was me. Thanks for the response. Looking forward to the new books.

Martin
04-06-2017, 10:38 PM
Has Cemetery Dance received their copies of Ghosts of Benevolence yet?


Already out and shipped. If you have a sub or preorder, you'll be seeing it this week or next.

Dan Hocker
04-07-2017, 03:08 PM
Has Cemetery Dance received their copies of Ghosts of Benevolence yet?

Nope.

Martin
04-07-2017, 03:15 PM
Thanks, I have requested an update through Zach's Website.


Nope.

Martin
05-03-2017, 05:07 PM
Has Cemetery Dance received their copies of Ghosts of Benevolence yet?

So Dan have Ghosts of Benevolence arrived yet?

KING'SWAYPRESS
05-04-2017, 11:40 AM
Tracking shows they'll be there Friday, or possibly Monday.

KING'SWAYPRESS
05-04-2017, 11:53 AM
Good things are coming.

2017 has already seen 4 new releases and 4 more at the printer now.
The rewrite of Twilight of The Pumpkin Man has been finished and turned in (it came in at 30k words more than Jack's original version).

Here's a pic of the books that just went out to lifetime hardcover subscribers (not included in the pic is The Green-Eyed Monster which is also shipping). For those who still claim that KWP is going nowhere, this picture tells a different tale.

19564
19565

saginawhorror
05-04-2017, 01:47 PM
Nice. Haven't gotten them yet but looking forward to them .

Martin
05-04-2017, 02:39 PM
Good things are coming.

2017 has already seen 4 new releases and 4 more at the printer now.
The rewrite of Twilight of The Pumpkin Man has been finished and turned in (it came in at 30k words more than Jack's original version).

Here's a pic of the books that just went out to lifetime hardcover subscribers (not included in the pic is The Green-Eyed Monster which is also shipping). For those who still claim that KWP is going nowhere, this picture tells a different tale.

19564
19565

Zach,

Thanks for the update and the photos. Sounds like I will not see this one until after the Gwendy's dust has settled.

Theli
05-04-2017, 06:31 PM
Looking snappy Zach!

Sock Monkey
05-04-2017, 11:36 PM
Glad to hear that things are moving along. Those Ghosts of Benevolence editions look really nice!

Martin
06-19-2017, 06:11 PM
So Dan have Ghosts of Benevolence arrived yet?

PS - Hope you had a wonderful vacation!

bookworm 1
07-22-2017, 06:49 PM
Anyone hear anything from Zach lately? I asked about Poker Club by Ray Garton on Facebook over a month ago and he never responded to my comment. I have had the book on order for years now and was wondering if it was finished. I know Ray was going through a lot of serious medical problems for awhile.
Am I the only one who gets frustrated with Zach's excuses? Ie. New update soon then nothing for a month or more? Or this is a short note rest of the email later this week then nothing?
Just needed to vent on this.

mhatchett
07-22-2017, 07:21 PM
WHWHWHWAAAATTTTTTT!

Ranger
07-23-2017, 02:03 AM
Am I the only one who gets frustrated with Zach's excuses? Ie. New update soon then nothing for a month or more? Or this is a short note rest of the email later this week then nothing?
Just needed to vent on this.

No, you're not alone.

KWP are producing a number of paperbacks. Great if you're a fan of the three authors they continuously publish.
If you ordered limited editions then as ever it's a waiting game.

c marvel
07-23-2017, 08:07 AM
Anyone hear anything from Zach lately? I asked about Poker Club by Ray Garton on Facebook over a month ago and he never responded to my comment. I have had the book on order for years now and was wondering if it was finished. I know Ray was going through a lot of serious medical problems for awhile.
Am I the only one who gets frustrated with Zach's excuses? Ie. New update soon then nothing for a month or more? Or this is a short note rest of the email later this week then nothing?
Just needed to vent on this.

Zach has posted here in the past. Maybe you should try sending him a pm. Just a thought. ~Cap

KING'SWAYPRESS
07-23-2017, 01:32 PM
Anyone hear anything from Zach lately? I asked about Poker Club by Ray Garton on Facebook over a month ago and he never responded to my comment. I have had the book on order for years now and was wondering if it was finished. I know Ray was going through a lot of serious medical problems for awhile.
Am I the only one who gets frustrated with Zach's excuses? Ie. New update soon then nothing for a month or more? Or this is a short note rest of the email later this week then nothing?
Just needed to vent on this.


Actually, I only received ONE inquiry on that book, and I DID respond in full. Any chance it's in your spam?

I actually just had a devil of a time responding back and forth with Glenn Chadbourne on a cover I needed (and why would I not respond to that?) wherein about only every 3rd or 4th email was getting through.

I'll try to send the email again and copy and paste or forward the original response to you.

and FYI, are you on our FB page? I post regularly there and my last newsletter was about 12 days ago. Let me know if you aren't getting these. It's possible that if my email responses are going to spam, that the newsletters might be too.

Z.

Ranger
07-23-2017, 03:44 PM
Actually, I only received ONE inquiry on that book, and I DID respond in full. Any chance it's in your spam?

I actually just had a devil of a time responding back and forth with Glenn Chadbourne on a cover I needed (and why would I not respond to that?) wherein about only every 3rd or 4th email was getting through.

I'll try to send the email again and copy and paste or forward the original response to you.

and FYI, are you on our FB page? I post regularly there and my last newsletter was about 12 days ago. Let me know if you aren't getting these. It's possible that if my email responses are going to spam, that the newsletters might be too.

Z.

Zach,
I'm not on facebook so if you could respond to these questions here that would be great.

Have the signature sheets from Steven Saville arrived yet? In an earlier post you said that they were going to be sent over after the Christmas period.
Have the Ghosts of Benevolence traycases been produced? You've posted a pic of the books but there are no traycases pictured.

Thanks.

KING'SWAYPRESS
07-24-2017, 03:50 PM
Zach,
I'm not on facebook so if you could respond to these questions here that would be great.

Have the signature sheets from Steven Saville arrived yet? In an earlier post you said that they were going to be sent over after the Christmas period.
Have the Ghosts of Benevolence traycases been produced? You've posted a pic of the books but there are no traycases pictured.

Thanks.

Certainly.

Unfortunately, no I have not received the sig sheets from Steven and I will be touching past with him again today.

The traycases for Ghosts have been rejected three times because they just weren't right. At least not by my standards.

Instead of making the customers wait, just like I did with The Skull Ring, I shipped the books and the traycases will follow.

Z.

Martin
07-24-2017, 05:25 PM
Certainly.

Unfortunately, no I have not received the sig sheets from Steven and I will be touching past with him again today.

The traycases for Ghosts have been rejected three times because they just weren't right. At least not by my standards.

Instead of making the customers wait, just like I did with The Skull Ring, I shipped the books and the traycases will follow.

Z.

Zach, I have Ghosts of Benevolence ordered via Cemetery Dance. Will they be shipping me the book and then the traycase?

bookworm 1
07-24-2017, 10:09 PM
Actually, I only received ONE inquiry on that book, and I DID respond in full. Any chance it's in your spam?

I actually just had a devil of a time responding back and forth with Glenn Chadbourne on a cover I needed (and why would I not respond to that?) wherein about only every 3rd or 4th email was getting through.

I'll try to send the email again and copy and paste or forward the original response to you.

and FYI, are you on our FB page? I post regularly there and my last newsletter was about 12 days ago. Let me know if you aren't getting these. It's possible that if my email responses are going to spam, that the newsletters might be too.

Z.

I do follow you on Facebook. In fact that is where I left the inquiry. In the comments section of one of the posts

Jim Slim Mclain
07-25-2017, 04:22 PM
Zach, I sent you a PM of an email I've been trying to send you.

thanks.

Take care.

Jim.

RonClinton
07-25-2017, 10:36 PM
I actually just had a devil of a time responding back and forth with Glenn Chadbourne on a cover I needed (and why would I not respond to that?) wherein about only every 3rd or 4th email was getting through.





C. . . . I've changed email servers because too many messages to and from customers were ending up in the ether somewhere. Some communication issues have been my fault and I accept that. Even though I work a lot of hrs at my regular job, I'll be checking my emails daily. I'll respond within 24hrs. As stated before, any additional delays caused by things like rejections of shipments will be communicated clearly and early.


I'm assuming you're the person who I just replied to earlier tonight after finding messages from a couple of people in my junk folder.

Etc.

Zach, have you considered changing your ISP or going to GMail or something to address all these email difficulties you continue to experience...?

KING'SWAYPRESS
07-27-2017, 04:08 PM
Etc.

Zach, have you considered changing your ISP or going to GMail or something to address all these email difficulties you continue to experience...?

Hi All,

Not an excuse. Out of town on dire family business. Little reception here. Will be back, address all asap. Don't want anyone to think I am ignoring.

Z.

Martin
08-08-2017, 04:40 PM
I am afraid the time has come for me to cancel my order for "The Ghosts of Benevolence" and walk from King's Way Press.

I ordered the book in 2015 and to be honest the long wait has nothing to do with my cancelling the order. I actually have several books on order from Cemetery Dance, one of them has been On Order for over 10 years. I am very patient and can find plenty to read so waiting for a book has never been an issue for me.

Deception is where I draw the line. On the rare occasions I have inquired with Cemetery Dance regarding an order I have received an honest response. Sometimes that response has been as simple as 'Can't provide an update, would be happy to offer a refund if the wait has been to long.' I have never cancelled an order sue to production delays. If I had I would not have Legacies or Centuries Best on my bookshelves today.

I feel that the communications from Zach have been less than accurate, and the inaccuracies were not a misstatement.

Here is my timeline for this book:
01-08-2015 I order The Ghosts of Benevolence from Cemetery Dance
01-25-2017 Another discussion about KWP on this board happens, Zach comments so I ask for an estimate on Ghosts.
01-25-2017 Zach responds with 'Already out and shipped. If you have a sub or preorder, you'll be seeing it this week or next.'
01-25-2017 I respond that I ordered through CD so my wait will be longer but am pleased it is getting closer.
04-06-2017 I ask, on this board, if CD has received there copies yet.
04-07-2017 Dan responds 'Nope'
04-07-2017 I request an update on the shipment of Ghosts to CD through the KWP website.
04-10-2017 Zach responds via email with 'CD's boxes of books shipped this AM and will be to them within a few days. Sorry for the late reply. Been down almost a month with flu and pneumonia.
05-03-2017 I ask again on this board if CD has received Ghosts yet.
05-04-2017 Zach responds with 'Tracking shows they'll be there Friday, or possibly Monday.'
05-04-2017 I thank Zach for the update and acknowledge that I will probably not see mine until the Gwendy's dust has settled.
06-19-2017 I asked via this board again if Ghosts has arrived.
xx-xx-xxxx I receive no response, assuming they have not and Dan is hoping Zach will chime in as it is not CD's issue.
07-23-2017 Ranger asks on this board 'Have the Ghosts of Benevolence traycases been produced? You've posted a pic of the books but there are no traycases pictured.'
07-24-2017 Zach responds 'The traycases for Ghosts have been rejected three times because they just weren't right. At least not by my standards. Instead of making the customers wait, just like I did with The Skull Ring, I shipped the books and the traycases will follow.'
07-24-2017 I ask via this board 'I have Ghosts of Benevolence ordered via Cemetery Dance. Will they be shipping me the book and then the traycase?'
07-27-2017 Zach responds to several questions with 'Not an excuse. Out of town on dire family business. Little reception here. Will be back, address all asap. Don't want anyone to think I am ignoring.'

At this point I believed that the books have not been shipped to Cemetery Dance, as I have been told they have

I wish Zach nothing but the best and hope King's Way Press all success. I however, will not be a customer. I am done.

Dan if you feel in any way that this post is inappropriate please feel free to delete it.

Thanks,
Martin

Dan Hocker
08-08-2017, 05:10 PM
For what it's worth we have our copies of Ghosts (we have for some time). Only recently have I had a chance to open the boxes and verify counts. We're a couple copies short, not sure if that's on our end (us not ordering enough) or on Zach's. I believe Brian is working on resolving that issue. As far as if they are shipping or not we have not decided how we're going to handle that yet. Since these books technically get traycases, which as I understand it will be coming at a later time, our system isn't really set up in a way that can easily ship these things separately, unless the product was set up that way in the first place. I believe the plan was to go into each order individually and manually add a separate product for the traycase. In the mean time though we have to resolve our book shortage first, again I don't know if that's our fault or Zach's or if they where just lost in the mail (it happens sometimes, just had it happen with PS Pub's Night Shift).

Martin
08-08-2017, 05:19 PM
For what it's worth we have our copies of Ghosts (we have for some time). Only recently have I had a chance to open the boxes and verify counts. We're a couple copies short, not sure if that's on our end (us not ordering enough) or on Zach's. I believe Brian is working on resolving that issue. As far as if they are shipping or not we have not decided how we're going to handle that yet. Since these books technically get traycases, which as I understand it will be coming at a later time, our system isn't really set up in a way that can easily ship these things separately, unless the product was set up that way in the first place. I believe the plan was to go into each order individually and manually add a separate product for the traycase. In the mean time though we have to resolve our book shortage first, again I don't know if that's our fault or Zach's or if they where just lost in the mail (it happens sometimes, just had it happen with PS Pub's Night Shift).

Thanks Dan. That matters a lot to me as it informs me that Zach did indeed ship them when he said he had.

KING'SWAYPRESS
08-27-2017, 12:48 AM
Thanks Dan. That matters a lot to me as it informs me that Zach did indeed ship them when he said he had.

Okay guys...I'm back. I was away for a long while and with good reason. I am just getting settled back in after losing my mother, which has been quite devastating to me.

An accident took her from us very prematurely and she fought valiantly for several weeks before complications took her away from us. I was lucky enough to at least be by her side through the last few weeks of her life. As stated before, this is not an excuse.

I'll be honest. I haven't had a lot of experience losing close relatives. I'm still a little shell-shocked and I'm fighting depression.

That said, I am returning to things full tilt Monday morning and will be catching up with anyone I've missed and tying up any loose ends. Bear with me a few more days. If you've been waiting to hear back from me, you will shortly. That's a promise. I hope that throwing myself into my regular job and the press will help chase this oppressing depression away. If you haven't heard back from me by Friday and you think you should have, please reach out to me again. Hopefully that won't be necessary.

I appreciate you all and the patience you have afforded me.

Sincerely,
Zach

bsaenz24
08-27-2017, 01:27 AM
I'm very sorry for your loss. You're in our prayers.

c marvel
08-27-2017, 10:22 AM
Okay guys...I'm back. I was away for a long while and with good reason. I am just getting settled back in after losing my mother, which has been quite devastating to me.

An accident took her from us very prematurely and she fought valiantly for several weeks before complications took her away from us. I was lucky enough to at least be by her side through the last few weeks of her life. As stated before, this is not an excuse.

I'll be honest. I haven't had a lot of experience losing close relatives. I'm still a little shell-shocked and I'm fighting depression.

That said, I am returning to things full tilt Monday morning and will be catching up with anyone I've missed and tying up any loose ends. Bear with me a few more days. If you've been waiting to hear back from me, you will shortly. That's a promise. I hope that throwing myself into my regular job and the press will help chase this oppressing depression away. If you haven't heard back from me by Friday and you think you should have, please reach out to me again. Hopefully that won't be necessary.

I appreciate you all and the patience you have afforded me.

Sincerely,
Zach

I'm truly sorry to hear about this Zach. I lost my one sister approx. nine days before Christmas of last year. The last time I saw her I left in a depressed state myself due to the condition I found her in. I didn't have my normal appetite for exploring during that trip home to North Dakota. Take care and I hope things get better for you.


Cap

c marvel
02-01-2018, 11:45 PM
Today I found a message from Zach Powell saying good news was going up on the page in a few minutes. I assume he means the King's Way Press website. I checked there and don't see any new news or item that would interest people here.


Cap

Ranger
02-02-2018, 03:57 PM
Today I found a message from Zach Powell saying good news was going up on the page in a few minutes. I assume he means the King's Way Press website. I checked there and don't see any new news or item that would interest people here.


Cap

There's an update on the facebook page concerning hardcover releases. No idea if these are the limited editions that have been 'forthcoming' for quite some time.

bookworm 1
02-04-2018, 01:39 PM
There's an update on the facebook page concerning hardcover releases. No idea if these are the limited editions that have been 'forthcoming' for quite some time.

I guess I will head over the and see. I have not received an email about any updates in awhile.

Ranger
02-09-2018, 11:25 PM
Did anyone receive a newsletter giving any details on these hardcovers? I assume that they are standard unsigned hardcovers rather than the signed editions but was curious if anyone had any further information.

bookworm 1
02-10-2018, 02:19 AM
Did anyone receive a newsletter giving any details on these hardcovers? I assume that they are standard unsigned hardcovers rather than the signed editions but was curious if anyone had any further information.

No newsletter but that's what I come to expect from KingsWay Press. The hardcover books are both signed and unsigned. At least that's what I got from the Facebook page post. I don't ever think that the Ray Garton book will be published at this point. This is unfortunately a very unreliable press. Too bad because the books are good quality.

mhatchett
02-10-2018, 12:43 PM
I don't deal with them.

TacomaDiver
02-10-2018, 02:44 PM
I don't deal with them.

Based on what I've seen here, I won't ever.

RonClinton
02-10-2018, 05:32 PM
I don't deal with them.

One needs to have the patience of Job and the unerring trust in their fellow man to do so. Unfortunately, I don't have either. I also don't have any interest in any thing they've published or plan to publish, so I admit that does make it easier.

That said, the failure and shennanigans (not necessarily suggesting that in this case but rather it's been known to occur at other times) of any small press undermines the solvency and customer trust of the small-press industry that we all enjoy, so I do hope they are ultimately able to make a go of it.

Ranger
02-10-2018, 05:51 PM
One needs to have the patience of Job and the unerring trust in their fellow man to do so. Unfortunately, I don't have either. I also don't have any interest in any thing they've published or plan to publish, so I admit that does make it easier.

That said, the failure and shennanigans (not necessarily suggesting that in this case but rather it's been known to occur at other times) of any small press undermines the solvency and customer trust of the small-press industry that we all enjoy, so I do hope they are ultimately able to make a go of it.

I'm sure most collectors hope that they succeed. The limited editions that they produced were great quality. Unfortunately, that was a long time ago. This thread was started over a year ago after collectors had already waited a number of years to see any products. The company is obviously still active. They release paperbacks and now they have some hardcovers due. If any of these are the overdue limited editions then that at least is progress. If they are not then personally my patience is exhausted.

Sock Monkey
02-11-2018, 05:26 AM
I hate to pile on, but I agree that it’s hard to keep positive when dealing with situations such as these. I have no stake in this particular case, but it can be discouraging seeing presses take missteps. I would like all small presses to thrive and be successful, especially since most get into it with good intentions. I feel this way with DRP. I want them to succeed but sometimes shake my head in confusion about things.

ClydeUmney
05-01-2018, 04:52 PM
Has anyone heard any updates about KWP or status? I had a lifetime trade, received a couple of books from them several years ago and then nothing since.
It seems like an email at least explaining that they are folding and there would be no more books coming would at least be in order, if that's what it's come to.
Of course Zack or whoever can also PM me here, but we had a brief email correspondence, promises of shipping, and then nothing.

saginawhorror
05-01-2018, 04:59 PM
Has anyone heard any updates about KWP or status? I had a lifetime trade, received a couple of books from them several years ago and then nothing since.
It seems like an email at least explaining that they are folding and there would be no more books coming would at least be in order, if that's what it's come to.
Of course Zack or whoever can also PM me here, but we had a brief email correspondence, promises of shipping, and then nothing.

Same thing with me. Got the first box and then nothing ever since.

fanatic
05-01-2018, 07:12 PM
Same here. Nothing for some time now. Last e-mail stated that a new hardcover was coming out for all life time members but I haven't seen it yet.

bookworm 1
05-02-2018, 12:59 AM
I have inquired about a book I have on order forever. No response at all. I'm getting ready to contact the author to see if he is still working with Zack. This guy is full of promises but doesn't seem to be able to follow through. It's really kind of sad as he is giving other small presses a bad name when legitimate issues come up.

KING'SWAYPRESS
05-02-2018, 01:45 AM
I have inquired about a book I have on order forever. No response at all. I'm getting ready to contact the author to see if he is still working with Zack. This guy is full of promises but doesn't seem to be able to follow through. It's really kind of sad as he is giving other small presses a bad name when legitimate issues come up.

What book are you looking for? I don't have ANY unanswered emails in my inbox.

I have a new email account I set up because some responses are seeming to go to the recipients spam or are ending up lost in the ether.

Contact me at zpowellkwp5@gmail.com

I am currently away with my family at the beach and reception is spotty. I'll be back in town 5/5.

Z.

KING'SWAYPRESS
05-02-2018, 01:49 AM
Same here. Nothing for some time now. Last e-mail stated that a new hardcover was coming out for all life time members but I haven't seen it yet.

You wouldn't have seen it yet. If you're getting the newsletters, the last one stated the unannounced and ultra limited hardcover (30 copies) would be shipping in 3 weeks. It's been less than that.

Z.

KING'SWAYPRESS
05-02-2018, 02:01 AM
Has anyone heard any updates about KWP or status? I had a lifetime trade, received a couple of books from them several years ago and then nothing since.
It seems like an email at least explaining that they are folding and there would be no more books coming would at least be in order, if that's what it's come to.
Of course Zack or whoever can also PM me here, but we had a brief email correspondence, promises of shipping, and then nothing.


KWP has NOT folded. It is NOT folding. It will NEVER fold.

Are you getting the newsletters? I am trying to keep up regular communication through them.

Don't want sympathy, but I lost my mother who I was very close to late last year. Worse yet was that I lost my teen daughter who was the light of my life earlier this year.

Needless to say it's been hard. But if these things aren't enough to make me fold, nothing will.

Maybe our communications are getting lost? It's been a problem communicating through the website email, even with artists.

Please shoot me an email with inquiries to the new email address: zpowellkwp5@gmail.com

It's always better to send me messages direct. This kind of speculation on an open forum leads to needless panic. People who weren't worried become worried. Then I get inundated with emails and panicked inquires and spend more time than I should calming people.

And sometimes I won't see things here so it only delays getting a response.

I am away with a much needed vacation until 5/5. Internet is spotty here at best.

Please shoot me an email and I will answer it either before or shortly after I return home.

If you're not getting the newsletters, let me know so I can add you to the list.

If you haven't liked the KWP Facebook page, please do so. Sometimes updates are posted there first as it's quicker to post there than it is to send an email blast.

Thanks for reaching out,

Z.

saginawhorror
05-02-2018, 02:11 AM
Email sent.

Brian861
05-02-2018, 11:47 AM
KWP has NOT folded. It is NOT folding. It will NEVER fold.

Are you getting the newsletters? I am trying to keep up regular communication through them.

Don't want sympathy, but I lost my mother who I was very close to late last year. Worse yet was that I lost my teen daughter who was the light of my life earlier this year.

Needless to say it's been hard. But if these things aren't enough to make me fold, nothing will.

Maybe our communications are getting lost? It's been a problem communicating through the website email, even with artists.

Please shoot me an email with inquiries to the new email address: zpowellkwp5@gmail.com

It's always better to send me messages direct. This kind of speculation on an open forum leads to needless panic. People who weren't worried become worried. Then I get inundated with emails and panicked inquires and spend more time than I should calming people.

And sometimes I won't see things here so it only delays getting a response.

I am away with a much needed vacation until 5/5. Internet is spotty here at best.

Please shoot me an email and I will answer it either before or shortly after I return home.

If you're not getting the newsletters, let me know so I can add you to the list.

If you haven't liked the KWP Facebook page, please do so. Sometimes updates are posted there first as it's quicker to post there than it is to send an email blast.

Thanks for reaching out,

Z.

Although I'm not a customer, Zack, my deepest sympathies for the loss of your mother and your daughter. We lost my young nephew about a year and a half ago so I can understand how tough that can be. Best wishes moving forward.

fanatic
07-12-2018, 07:39 PM
Quote Originally Posted by fanatic View Post
Same here. Nothing for some time now. Last e-mail stated that a new hardcover was coming out for all life time members but I haven't seen it yet.

You wouldn't have seen it yet. If you're getting the newsletters, the last one stated the unannounced and ultra limited hardcover (30 copies) would be shipping in 3 weeks. It's been less than that.

Z.


I sent Zak an email about this book on Monday? still haven't heard back from him yet, maybe his email is broken again.

bookworm 1
07-13-2018, 03:21 AM
Quote Originally Posted by fanatic View Post
Same here. Nothing for some time now. Last e-mail stated that a new hardcover was coming out for all life time members but I haven't seen it yet.

You wouldn't have seen it yet. If you're getting the newsletters, the last one stated the unannounced and ultra limited hardcover (30 copies) would be shipping in 3 weeks. It's been less than that.

Z.


I sent Zak an email about this book on Monday? still haven't heard back from him yet, maybe his email is broken again.

Sorry about this. I really don't know what is up with him. If his business is in the toilet he should look at how he has run it the last couple years. I don't mean to sound unsympathetic to his problems but it's one thing after another and broken promise after broken promise. After awhile people just stop listening.......And believing that anything is going to come out.

KING'SWAYPRESS
07-13-2018, 11:48 AM
Sorry about this. I really don't know what is up with him. If his business is in the toilet he should look at how he has run it the last couple years. I don't mean to sound unsympathetic to his problems but it's one thing after another and broken promise after broken promise. After awhile people just stop listening.......And believing that anything is going to come out.

Things HAVE been coming out, with pretty good consistency.

I've replied to him. I simply forgot to turn on my autoresponder. I took this week off as my wife is on bed rest with her pregnancy.

Also, our Facebook page was updated with pics of the hardcover in question more than a week ago.

Please follow our page for updates as we usually post them there first.

https://www.facebook.com/Kings-Way-Press-104852346324828/

Z.

fanatic
07-13-2018, 12:28 PM
Things HAVE been coming out, with pretty good consistency.

I've replied to him. I simply forgot to turn on my autoresponder. I took this week off as my wife is on bed rest with her pregnancy.

Also, our Facebook page was updated with pics of the hardcover in question more than a week ago.

Please follow our page for updates as we usually post them there first.

https://www.facebook.com/Kings-Way-Press-104852346324828/

Z.


Thank you for the reply Zack.

saginawhorror
07-13-2018, 09:08 PM
All I know is I've never received anything other than the first box. That was probably 3 or 4 years ago. Not even a single one of the paperbacks. I ordered both a hardcover and paperback subscription.

KING'SWAYPRESS
07-15-2018, 04:39 PM
All I know is I've never received anything other than the first box. That was probably 3 or 4 years ago. Not even a single one of the paperbacks. I ordered both a hardcover and paperback subscription.

Please PM me with your details, as I not familiar with the people here by their screen names. We have one customer who I've tried to reach time and time again to no avail through both the business and personal email addresses and both are bouncing back us undeliverable.

I've had two boxes of books, 15-16 books in total that have come back as address not found to the same person. If that's you, I need to verify the information we have on your address and email.

PM me so we can get that resolved.

Z.

saginawhorror
07-15-2018, 08:16 PM
Message sent.

mhatchett
07-16-2018, 01:34 PM
I let this go a long time ago. I was able to get my money back because I'd used paypal. Good intentions, bad intentions, at some point it doesn't matter, I've got better things to do with my money. Not really into "Book Gambling" LOL!!

KING'SWAYPRESS
07-16-2018, 03:30 PM
Message sent.

I think we discovered the problem. I have no PM from you on this forum or the company FB page. Nor do I have a message through the website email or my personal email.

Do you know where the message was sent?

Also, can you send me a message to my personal email? zpowellkwp5@gmail.com

KING'SWAYPRESS
07-16-2018, 03:32 PM
I let this go a long time ago. I was able to get my money back because I'd used paypal. Good intentions, bad intentions, at some point it doesn't matter, I've got better things to do with my money. Not really into "Book Gambling" LOL!!

Let's be honest here, I would have refunded you regardless of how you paid. You NEVER gave me that option. So don't act like you "had" to go through paypal to get a refund. That's simply NOT true.

Funny, for someone who says they "let this go a long time ago", you sure as hell mention it every chance you get. No "book gambling" involved.

I am always willing to own up to my own failures and have done so many times and I always will. I do NOT however have to remain silent when someone is falsely portraying me as unwilling to refund a simple $40 upon request, which is patently absurd. I also told you via email that even though you filed a claim with PP (WITHOUT even asking for a refund first) that I would still send a free copy of the hardback when it comes out as a customer service gesture. I still intend to do that and the hardcover will be here soon.

Z.

saginawhorror
07-16-2018, 04:01 PM
I think we discovered the problem. I have no PM from you on this forum or the company FB page. Nor do I have a message through the website email or my personal email.

Do you know where the message was sent?

Also, can you send me a message to my personal email? zpowellkwp5@gmail.com

Sent through both my yahoo and gmail accounts. Hopefully one will make it. :)

The PM was sent to through this forum

KING'SWAYPRESS
07-16-2018, 04:35 PM
Sent through both my yahoo and gmail accounts. Hopefully one will make it. :)

The PM was sent to through this forum

Still don't show a PM, unless I'm doing something wrong.

Did just get the email from my personal email address and responded a few moments ago. Please let me know if when you get it.

Found 2 more emails along with yours in spam. I'll be answering those now.

Thanks for your help.

Z.

saginawhorror
07-16-2018, 05:40 PM
Still don't show a PM, unless I'm doing something wrong.

Did just get the email from my personal email address and responded a few moments ago. Please let me know if when you get it.

Found 2 more emails along with yours in spam. I'll be answering those now.

Thanks for your help.

Z.

Gmail worked. Good to know. Have to use that from now on. Looking forward to get a giant box of books!

mhatchett
07-17-2018, 12:47 AM
Just the facts man, just the facts. Your record speaks for itself.

bookworm 1
07-17-2018, 01:28 AM
Just the facts man, just the facts. Your record speaks for itself.

And it's funny that we don't hear anything from him until someone complains on this forum then we hear how it's our fault or the fault of his email server or he is in a location where he has spotty service until we complain then his service is fine until he tells us we were wrong then it goes out again. Super frustrating.

Ranger
07-17-2018, 04:33 AM
And it's funny that we don't hear anything from him until someone complains on this forum then we hear how it's our fault or the fault of his email server or he is in a location where he has spotty service until we complain then his service is fine until he tells us we were wrong then it goes out again. Super frustrating.

The pattern is certainly repetitive and has been going on now for many years. As you say, incredibly frustrating.

I'd love to see the 6 limited editions released but when your last limited edition was released 5 or 6 years ago it's kind of hard to be optimistic.

Joe315
07-17-2018, 07:33 PM
Hi Zach,

Any updates on Silver and 900 Miles?

KING'SWAYPRESS
07-18-2018, 12:18 PM
Just the facts man, just the facts. Your record speaks for itself.

Except your "facts" are facts at all.

The facts are that you NEVER asked me for a refund. One that I would have readily provided. That is the facts.

KING'SWAYPRESS
07-18-2018, 12:21 PM
And it's funny that we don't hear anything from him until someone complains on this forum then we hear how it's our fault or the fault of his email server or he is in a location where he has spotty service until we complain then his service is fine until he tells us we were wrong then it goes out again. Super frustrating.

Actually, people DO hear from me. You can like the FB page or sign up for newsletters.

When someone alerts me to a post here, I try to answer it.

I have NEVER claimed any shortcoming of my own belongs to anyone else or blamed it on you. That's simply not true. I called one person out here for making false statements and that is true. His statement was false period.

I accept my own shortcomings, but I do not accept lies told about me.

As for "hearing from me" other than newsletters and FB page posts, I don't have time to spend on forums. I wish I did, but I do not.

KING'SWAYPRESS
07-18-2018, 12:23 PM
The pattern is certainly repetitive and has been going on now for many years. As you say, incredibly frustrating.

I'd love to see the 6 limited editions released but when your last limited edition was released 5 or 6 years ago it's kind of hard to be optimistic.

I don't know where you come up with that claim. Our last limited edition was delivered to our customers less than 18 months ago and our latest was released roughly 3 weeks ago. Not five or six years ago.

KING'SWAYPRESS
07-18-2018, 12:26 PM
Hi Zach,

Any updates on Silver and 900 Miles?

900 miles is due out early fall. As for Silver, I am reaching out to Steven Savile to see about returning the signature pages again. It's been a nightmare getting them back with the post office returning them more than once to Steve without cause. I have no idea what the disconnect is there. The book blocks have been done for literally years and I've simply been waiting on these pages. Steve has verified this more than once on forums.

I hope to have those back soon so I can release those books.

Z.

KING'SWAYPRESS
07-18-2018, 12:43 PM
As I said before, I take full responsibility for my own shortcomings. However, there are many who pile on without due cause. Especially when great effort is made to right the ship.

I have had more than one collector who are very excited about the recent changes at KWP, not limited to giving them free subs to the paperback line with their other subs.

The latest hardcover is a first for KWP in that it features a dustjacket!

Here is the latest KWP hardcover:

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww203/fullmoonpress/IMG_1975.jpg (http://s720.photobucket.com/user/fullmoonpress/media/IMG_1975.jpg.html)

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Crazyhorrornut
07-18-2018, 12:59 PM
I am someone who rarely participates on message boards, but felt obligated to do so now. I had a membership with FMP and I thought it died with the press. I was pleasantly surprised when sometime in 2010 or early 2011 when some books showed up from KWP. Impressive quality offerings to say the least.

As someone who thought my investment was dead, I appreciate Zach taking on the press and honoring the commitments of FMP. I was thrilled to receive the paperbacks as part of my sub. It wasn't originally part of the deal. So far, I've received 15 paperbacks, and 5 or 6 hardcovers from KWP.

While I wish the books would come quicker, a slow trickle of books is better than nothing at all given that the investment was written off as lost long ago. Say what you will about Zach, but I appreciate that in a time when small presses seem to crop up and fold on a regular basis, he finds it within himself to persevere. It can't be easy running a small press.

That's my two cents. I'm not gonna kick the guy when he is delivering and seems to be trying to honor his obligations.

Ranger
07-18-2018, 10:29 PM
I don't know where you come up with that claim. Our last limited edition was delivered to our customers less than 18 months ago and our latest was released roughly 3 weeks ago. Not five or six years ago.

Was the book that was released 18 months ago Ghosts of Benevolence? Were the traycases for this one produced? If so, that's fantastic.
I didn't see the post on your facebook page about the latest hardcover. Though, this seems to be a micro-limited 'not for sale' special edition.

I guess like most collectors I will judge your success on whether you can produce completed editions of the 6 limited run books that have been up for pre-order since 2012/13.

fanatic
08-24-2018, 07:00 PM
Quote Originally Posted by fanatic View Post
Same here. Nothing for some time now. Last e-mail stated that a new hardcover was coming out for all life time members but I haven't seen it yet.

You wouldn't have seen it yet. If you're getting the newsletters, the last one stated the unannounced and ultra limited hardcover (30 copies) would be shipping in 3 weeks. It's been less than that.

Z.


I sent Zak an email about this book on Monday? still haven't heard back from him yet, maybe his email is broken again.

Hi Zack,

Still no word on this book yet.

bookworm 1
08-25-2018, 12:36 PM
Not surprised. Are you? His service is spotty. :rolleyes:

BobDale
09-05-2018, 07:46 PM
I messaged this publisher through Facebook on the 23rd August. The message was read later that day (according to facebook) but I've had no response since.
The constant failings in communication from this company don't inspire confidence. Nor does the inability to produce a single one of their limited edition books.

Ranger
09-09-2018, 08:35 PM
I think I've seen enough from this publisher to decide that any future releases aren't going to be for me.
The failings are so consistent and repetitive that posting queries on this forum seems to be a waste of time.
The last post on facebook states that more hardback books are 'expected this July!'. They of course didn't appear.
Posting promises of progress and not delivering and then going AWOL whilst people try to get in touch. It's a pattern that has played out since the early days of the company.

As I said in an earlier post I had every hope that Zach would make a success of the company but he's had two years to change peoples' perceptions of KWP. In that time he has released a handful of paperbacks and a hardcover, which he had in stock years ago, minus traycase. I can't say that my perceptions have changed one iota.

Joseph Malatesta
10-03-2018, 10:22 PM
I purchased two signed Ogre's Passing books from King's Way Press about four years ago. This guy lies out of his ass over and over again. I'm in the process of trying to get my money refunded and it's like pulling teeth. He has about $400 of mine and if he does finally reply to me I can imagine his Grand Uncle would have died of an awful, debilitating malady, or something. I will get my money back.

fanatic
10-05-2018, 07:42 PM
I purchased two signed Ogre's Passing books from King's Way Press about four years ago. This guy lies out of his ass over and over again. I'm in the process of trying to get my money refunded and it's like pulling teeth. He has about $400 of mine and if he does finally reply to me I can imagine his Grand Uncle would have died of an awful, debilitating malady, or something. I will get my money back.

Good luck

Ranger
10-24-2018, 12:40 AM
I see the KWP website has closed:
www.kwp-books.com

Since Zach said "KWP will NEVER go out of business. It won't happen. I made a promise to my lifetime subscribers and I made a promise to a very old friend that I will honor until my last breath is taken" I'm sure this is just an oversight and we can all look forward to deluxe limited editions any day now!

c marvel
10-24-2018, 10:55 AM
I contacted Zach via Facebook and he replied that the KWP website is down for Routine maintenance, nothing more.... When I search for the King's Way Press website and click the link I get the following message The provider has closed this website.

~Cap


I see the KWP website has closed:
www.kwp-books.com

Since Zach said "KWP will NEVER go out of business. It won't happen. I made a promise to my lifetime subscribers and I made a promise to a very old friend that I will honor until my last breath is taken" I'm sure this is just an oversight and we can all look forward to deluxe limited editions any day now!

bsaenz24
10-24-2018, 12:53 PM
It seems to be working.

bookworm 1
10-27-2018, 02:16 AM
It worked for me as well. However I have been waiting for 2 months now on a response to a question that I sent him via messenger through his Facebook page. He was it but hasn't answered.

fanatic
10-28-2018, 12:17 AM
I'm still waiting for my free book from him. Not expecting to ever see it though.

c marvel
11-20-2018, 04:09 PM
King's Way Press-November 15 at 10:31 AM ∑ New newsletter coming tonight with updates, news, and shipping schedules. I found this posted at Facebook. Did anyone receive this newsletter? I didn't.


Cap

mhatchett
11-20-2018, 05:06 PM
I have come to enjoy the Delusion of it all. Both by the perpetrator and the victims. Life is interesting.

Martin
11-20-2018, 05:41 PM
I did not. I have to assume that he has removed me from his distribution list as I can't even recall the last thing I received from him. It is also possible it has just been that long since he sent something out. To be honest I am good not receiving anything from him.

saginawhorror
11-26-2018, 11:03 AM
Look what I received from my Lifetime Subscription on Saturday! Night of the Pumpkin Man and Ghosts of Benevolence are Hardcovers.


21128

mhatchett
11-26-2018, 12:40 PM
Very nice!

bookworm 1
11-27-2018, 01:02 AM
Look what I received from my Lifetime Subscription on Saturday! Night of the Pumpkin Man and Ghosts of Benevolence are Hardcovers.


21128

Well at least someone is getting stuff from Zac. Still waiting for an answer to my now 3 month old question to him. Also I have not received the latest newsletter. This guy is useless. Tired of him and a couple of others giving the small press publishing world a bad name.

fanatic
11-27-2018, 07:12 PM
I sure as hell wish i would get my books from Zack.

c marvel
02-21-2019, 07:26 PM
Has anyone heard from Zach? I think it's been a few months since any update. Cap

Ranger
02-21-2019, 09:22 PM
Has anyone heard from Zach? I think it's been a few months since any update. Cap

There's a newsletter due out in 2021. Stay tuned. Exciting times ahead etc. etc.

mhatchett
02-22-2019, 12:29 AM
There's a newsletter due out in 2021. Stay tuned. Exciting times ahead etc. etc.

Wicked funny, good job!!

bookworm 1
02-23-2019, 12:50 PM
There's a newsletter due out in 2021. Stay tuned. Exciting times ahead etc. etc.

Wow!!!! Didn't know one would be out THAT soon.

saginawhorror
03-11-2019, 08:30 PM
I got a new newsletter today. With a little luck i might be getting a new box in a few weeks. I'll let everyone know.

bookworm 1
03-12-2019, 01:30 AM
I got a new newsletter today. With a little luck i might be getting a new box in a few weeks. I'll let everyone know.

I got the newsletter also. I asked for a refund from the Ray Garton Book I purchased in 2012 or earlier. I did this past week or the week before and Zack saw it right away and has yet to respond. This was my second attempt to contact him in the last few months. The last time was for an update on the book and he was that right away and never responded to me at all.
I almost contacted Ray directly and now wish that I had. I know I would have gotten a quicker response .

c marvel
03-12-2019, 03:15 AM
I got the newsletter also. I asked for a refund from the Ray Garton Book I purchased in 2012 or earlier. I did this past week or the week before and Zack saw it right away and has yet to respond. This was my second attempt to contact him in the last few months. The last time was for an update on the book and he was that right away and never responded to me at all.
I almost contacted Ray directly and now wish that I had. I know I would have gotten a quicker response .

I guess it was the newsletter that made me wonder. Before I saw Bookworm 1's reply I was thinking ... When was Poker Night by Ray Garton announced by Kings Way Press? Cap

mhatchett
03-12-2019, 02:36 PM
Can we take this thread down and just never speak of this again? It just depresses me lol!!

Dan Hocker
03-12-2019, 05:27 PM
Can we take this thread down and just never speak of this again? It just depresses me lol!!

Honestly I think I agree. So I'm gonna lock this thread. If something actually changes in the KWP situation someone can let me know and I'll re-open the thread, but otherwise we're kinda beating a dead horse here. So I'm locking the thread.